Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah!phaedra1106 wrote:Absolute cr@p!
She should try putting the blame where it actually lies, Bird, Atherton, Ryan, Hamilton etc. ALL had no business being granted an FAC in the first place. Athertons own FEO recommended he not have his guns returned yet was overruled by one of the most incompetent police licensing departments in the UK.
Put the blame on the police for not applying the law or Home Office guidelines with any uniformity, every police forces licensing department enforces the law and guidelines differently, sometimes with tragic results.
The quote from the coroner ""The Durham Coroner, the Independent Police Complaints Commission and the Home Affairs Select Committee have all proposed tougher rules to prevent people with a history of drug or alcohol abuse, mental illness and violence – especially domestic violence – from acquiring firearms licenses""
These rules are already in place and are applied correctly by many police forces but not all, Durham has an appalling record concerning firearms and it was that departments failing that resulted in the Horden shootings. If they had followed the law and H.O. guidance Atherton would never have been given his firearms back in the first place.
With respect mate, we've heard this all before and the truth is .... nobody gives a rat's ar*e! WE are the bad guys because WE'Ve got the guns and that's all Joe Public and these political gain-seeking neanderthals in government need to impose even harsher conditions upon US every time somebody charged with the responsibility to administer THEIR system of firearms ownership fails ...

As the Viking (pardon my familiarity) states further down the thread, where is our champion?
Where is our voice and who will look after OUR interests and highlight where basic system administration failures have resulted in some of the massacres inflicted upon innocent people in our country? Bereaved parents and partners have a right to know who was responsible for allowing a lunatic to keep his / her firearms when it is clear that under the firearm ownership provisions, they should have been disarmed. Phaedra, I totally agree with you on that particular point.
Lets also not forget that it isn't organisations that make these decisions, but individuals! We shouldn't be afraid to point the finger otherwise the perception of us as gun-toting potential mass-murderers will never go away and I for one am not prepared to bend over for a shafting every time some one fails to do the job for which they are paid. Don't let them hide.
Phew ... calm down Mezzer!