Sixshot6 wrote:[ I'm guessing Verney Carron's first market is France where Semi's can't be used for hunting and Germany where semi's have to have a 2 round mag while hunting (no limit for manuals when hunting I guess?).
I think that you may be mistaken with France. I'm fairly sure that I have seen them used on driven hunts. You can I believe use a semi-auto rifle but like most of Europe the magazine capacity is limited so a total of three rounds. What the thumb release does is allow for the use of larger capacity magazines. Think about the Browning Maral for instance. It's basically a manually operated Browning BAR. The BAR is restricted to 3 rounds but the Maral can have a 10 round magazine.
I guess regulations must have changed. But on the right track as what I though. I also believe in Austria Manuals op's are less regulated than semi's so another market. One more market may be some US state's like Pennsylvania, Semi's are not currently allowed for hunting and legislation to change that appears stalled so another market maybe.
Anyone have any idea if this may lead to more companies doing it and possible more interesting stuff?
I wonder if I could persuade Verney Carron to build a smaller version that would take a pistol round for gallery rifle shooting.
Much nicer than a Marlin, that is if you could get a Marlin as they are a bit thin on the ground at the moment and stupid money when they are available.
Chapuis wrote:I wonder if I could persuade Verney Carron to build a smaller version that would take a pistol round for gallery rifle shooting.
Much nicer than a Marlin, that is if you could get a Marlin as they are a bit thin on the ground at the moment and stupid money when they are available.
Sounds like an idea, with regards to Marlins you're not going to pry someone I know pre Remington Marlin out of his hands for any amount of money. For other stuff I was wondering if somewhere like the Cugir plant could be able to make some AK's with it also. With how an AK safety is, you could have lever's on both side to cover right and left-hand op. What pistol cal would you have? 9mm, 40 s&w or 357 sig ?
Sixshot6 wrote:Is it just me or does it look like the release is where it should be for a left, on a SGC 9mm and 223, release for a righty is on the left side while lefty is on the right due to where your thumb is. Does anyone notice that?
It's positioned in the right place if you're gripping the rifle correctly. Likewise, the lever on the SGC is positioned correctly when gripping a rifle correctly with a pistol grip...
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Sixshot6 wrote:Is it just me or does it look like the release is where it should be for a left, on a SGC 9mm and 223, release for a righty is on the left side while lefty is on the right due to where your thumb is. Does anyone notice that?
It's positioned in the right place if you're gripping the rifle correctly. Likewise, the lever on the SGC is positioned correctly when gripping a rifle correctly with a pistol grip...
Oh I see what you mean, It's ok in that place due to a traditional rifle grip and both lefties and righties can use it fine but with a pistol grip you require it on the side where your thumb rests. I get you. It sounds good though still. We'll have to wait and see what reports of usage are like now.
Sixshot......the chances of Molot or Cugir producing anything like this are slim.Although Molot aren't on the sanctions list they would probably stick two fingers up in solidarity for their fellow countrymen and besides their biggest customer base in the Russian domestic market and the Russian military.
The tooling at Cugir that produces AKs are mostly old Soviet-era machines, they would have to invest a lot of money to produce a lever release version for what would be a very limited market when you consider that at the moment they probably produce a couple of thousand select-fire AKs for military customers for every one straight pull version they produce.....the Romanians have been punting these things out to foreign nations for decades and they aren't that fussy on who they sell to either so the civilian market is a drop in the ocean for them and probably not worth their effort to retool.
And the 30.06 thing comes from firing an Izhmash Tigr/Dragunov in Sweden some years ago that was chambered in 30.06, they were/are available from the factory in that calibre by special order.
You can also have one chambered for 9.3x64 as well, again by special order.
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