Possible VZ61 MARS action

[HALODIN]

I'd like to see it in .22 eargesplitten loudenboomer.

[Sixshot6]

Really?

I'm sure the German's used to use 7.63 Mauser in captured Russian guns during WW2. PPSH-41's to be exact. Which I just realized has a drum mag, but the mags are of such as vintage I don't believe they will be the ones used in the MARS Tok. I'd have thought you'd have know that Dromia. Now I can see you ferreting around for some 7.63 Mauser and getting one to feed it through. You're probably looking as I type.

[Sixshot6]

I once thought 50 beowulf. uses 5.56 mags and is 45-70 power.

[dromia]

Really?

I'm sure the German's used to use 7.63 Mauser in captured Russian guns during WW2. PPSH-41's to be exact. Which I just realized has a drum mag, but the mags are of such as vintage I don't believe they will be the ones used in the MARS Tok. I'd have thought you'd have know that Dromia. Now I can see you ferreting around for some 7.63 Mauser and getting one to feed it through. You're probably looking as I type.

I gave up ferreting many years ago, obviously you have great in depth of knowledge and practical experience of the ammunition and firearms concerned so I stand back in awe so as to be able to learn and add to the meagre knowledge I have on firearms and ammunition.

[Sixshot6]

Really?

I'm sure the German's used to use 7.63 Mauser in captured Russian guns during WW2. PPSH-41's to be exact. Which I just realized has a drum mag, but the mags are of such as vintage I don't believe they will be the ones used in the MARS Tok. I'd have thought you'd have know that Dromia. Now I can see you ferreting around for some 7.63 Mauser and getting one to feed it through. You're probably looking as I type.

I gave up ferreting many years ago, obviously you have great in depth of knowledge and practical experience of the ammunition and firearms concerned so I stand back in awe so as to be able to learn and add to the meagre knowledge I have on firearms and ammunition.

I didn't mean to offend Dromia. To be fair you know more than I do. I know you're probably being Sarky. I just sometimes my jokes don't quite work . But Back to the main is 7.62 Tok MARS something you'd be interested in?

Also please don't make me feel bad and if I have offended please say so. I'd rather learn from a mistake than propagate it.

[dromia]

This is an internet forum, nothing on the internet is worth taking offence over.

I have never claimed to know or be good at anything I just plod along in my own world indifferent to the rest. The internet has so many experts on so many subjects that I am surprised the world is still in the state it is.

I have forgotten more than I know. I know that we are all ignorant but about different things.

I bow to your superior knowledge.

[Sixshot6]

This is an internet forum, nothing on the internet is worth taking offence over.

I have never claimed to know or be good at anything I just plod along in my own world indifferent to the rest. The internet has so many experts on so many subjects that I am surprised the world is still in the state it is.

I have forgotten more than I know. I know that we are all ignorant but about different things.

I bow to your superior knowledge.

Thanks, I guess I'm still trying to work out my humour too. My only worry with 7.62 tok is its fast out of a pistol. Out of even a 12 inch barrel I'm not sure it would be 25m legal. Did you ever measure fps it was doing in the pre 1997 days?

For the record I do not own a chronograph. Don't need one right now and I would feel a bit embarrassed owning one.

[dromia]

Its "legality" would depend on the range certificate not the distance.

Yes we chronographed "in those days".

We also handloaded then too!

We didn't have the internet as we know it today either, but believe it or not, we still managed to shoot somehow.

The vast majority of bullets I put through my Tokarev and Broomhandles were cast by myself for the pistols.

[Sixshot6]

Its "legality" would depend on the range certificate not the distance.

Yes we chronographed "in those days".

We also handloaded then too!

We didn't have the internet as we know it today either, but believe it or not, we still managed to shoot somehow.

The vast majority of bullets I put through my Tokarev and Broomhandles were cast by myself for the pistols.

I see. I won't say I'd be embarrassed to own a chronograph, just would and you're right about range cert (one range I go to allows 17 hmrs on their 50's but only centrefire fullbore on their 100). Also Thurnscoe has a 100 yard range but are only allowed black powder, shotgun and 22 rimfire. Go figure. In the future for family reasons I may well end up on the Isle of man Dromia. is a Tok in 7.62 a good addition to a collection at all? I'd maybe get a chinese new production Norinco maybe.