Steyr SSG 69
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Steyr SSG 69
I own a Steyr SSG 69 with a ZFM 6 x 42 Z scope in the Steyr quick release mounts.
The ZFM scope is made by Swarovski as opposed to the Kahles ZF 95 6 x 42 more usually supplied with the rifle. To all intents and proposes these scopes appear to be identical.
These scopes use ballistic cams with the elevation turret numbered in hectometres from 1 to 8.
Kahles supply a range of ballistic cams for the ZF 95 in 7 different bullet types in .308 Win.
What I want to know (before emailing Swarovski & Kahles) is has anyone here used the replacement cams and are the Kahles cams interchangeable with the Swarovski cams?
My guess is that they are. Anyone?
The ZFM scope is made by Swarovski as opposed to the Kahles ZF 95 6 x 42 more usually supplied with the rifle. To all intents and proposes these scopes appear to be identical.
These scopes use ballistic cams with the elevation turret numbered in hectometres from 1 to 8.
Kahles supply a range of ballistic cams for the ZF 95 in 7 different bullet types in .308 Win.
What I want to know (before emailing Swarovski & Kahles) is has anyone here used the replacement cams and are the Kahles cams interchangeable with the Swarovski cams?
My guess is that they are. Anyone?
Re: Steyr SSG 69
I'd be very surprised if the cams were interchangeable...two different makers & all.
Re: Steyr SSG 69
I was thinking along the lines that Steyr ordered the same scope from different manufacturers, made to a specification with interchangeable components.saddler wrote:I'd be very surprised if the cams were interchangeable...two different makers & all.
Re: Steyr SSG 69
The only way that'd be likely is if Steyr paid for identical tooling, machinery, etc. to be installed at both factories
Even then I'd be surprised if they persuaded both firms to make an identical product
Even then I'd be surprised if they persuaded both firms to make an identical product
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Re: Steyr SSG 69
yes they are and yes I have . I own both scopes and the cam components ate the same , they were apparently made in the same factory and badge engineered for a while until the two arms of the company separated again . I have one on my M82 Parker -Hale sniper and a spare with different cams - 147gr NATO and 168gr NATO .Cams were available for 55gr 5.56 NATO as well . I spoke to Kahles to get the bits although it's a good few years ago.




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Re: Steyr SSG 69
I have two of the kahles scopes I purchased cams from them to set one up for 6.5x55 the other is set up for 168g .308 bullet.
Re: Steyr SSG 69
Thanks guy's for your input.
Saved me a lot of time in Google translate trying to inquire about a "wheelbarrow for my glasshouse"or some other strange translation!
here is a list of the cams
KAHLES ZF 95 BALLISTIC CAMS
• .223 4,0g (62gr) FN SS109 (100-800m) 960 m/sec 3150 ft/sec
#335-965
• 6,5x55 9,01g (139gr) Norma VM (100-800m) 800 m/sec 2625 ft/sec
#335-1573
• .284 10,7g (165gr) 7mm Rem Mag (100-1200yds) 930 m/sec 3050 ft/sec
#335-2176
• .308Win 9,3g (144gr) FN SS77 (100-800m) 856 m/sec 2808 ft/sec
#335-831
• .308Win 12,0g (185gr) Lapua Match (100-800m) 771 m/sec 2530 ft/sec
#335-1604
• .308Win 12,3g (190gr) RWS Match (100-800m) 750 m/sec 2461 ft/sec
#335-1712
• .308Win 10,9g (168gr) Hirtenberger Match (100-700m) 800 m/sec 2625 ft/sec
#335-1713
• .308Win 10,9g (168gr) Hirtenberger Match (100-1000yds) 817 m/sec 2680 ft/sec
#335-2177
• .308Win 11,2g (173gr) M118 Match (200-1000m) 770 m/sec 2530 ft/sec
#609-357
• .308Win 9,45g (146gr) special (200-800m) 870 m/sec 2858 ft/sec
#335-1138
• 30.06 9,7g (149gr) Hirtenberger BT (100-800m) 880 m/sec 2887 ft/sec
#335-1918
• .300WinMag 12,3g (190gr) Hirtenberger Match (100-1300yds) 880 m/sec 2887 ft/sec
#335-2178
• .300WinMag 13,0g (200gr) WinM70 (100-1100yds) 870 m/sec 2858 ft/sec
#335-2179
• .338Win 16,2g (250gr) Lapua .338 (100-1300yds) 856 m/sec 2808 ft/sec
#335-2180
• empty / ballistic cam without markings (for costumizing)
#335-1723
Saved me a lot of time in Google translate trying to inquire about a "wheelbarrow for my glasshouse"or some other strange translation!
here is a list of the cams
KAHLES ZF 95 BALLISTIC CAMS
• .223 4,0g (62gr) FN SS109 (100-800m) 960 m/sec 3150 ft/sec
#335-965
• 6,5x55 9,01g (139gr) Norma VM (100-800m) 800 m/sec 2625 ft/sec
#335-1573
• .284 10,7g (165gr) 7mm Rem Mag (100-1200yds) 930 m/sec 3050 ft/sec
#335-2176
• .308Win 9,3g (144gr) FN SS77 (100-800m) 856 m/sec 2808 ft/sec
#335-831
• .308Win 12,0g (185gr) Lapua Match (100-800m) 771 m/sec 2530 ft/sec
#335-1604
• .308Win 12,3g (190gr) RWS Match (100-800m) 750 m/sec 2461 ft/sec
#335-1712
• .308Win 10,9g (168gr) Hirtenberger Match (100-700m) 800 m/sec 2625 ft/sec
#335-1713
• .308Win 10,9g (168gr) Hirtenberger Match (100-1000yds) 817 m/sec 2680 ft/sec
#335-2177
• .308Win 11,2g (173gr) M118 Match (200-1000m) 770 m/sec 2530 ft/sec
#609-357
• .308Win 9,45g (146gr) special (200-800m) 870 m/sec 2858 ft/sec
#335-1138
• 30.06 9,7g (149gr) Hirtenberger BT (100-800m) 880 m/sec 2887 ft/sec
#335-1918
• .300WinMag 12,3g (190gr) Hirtenberger Match (100-1300yds) 880 m/sec 2887 ft/sec
#335-2178
• .300WinMag 13,0g (200gr) WinM70 (100-1100yds) 870 m/sec 2858 ft/sec
#335-2179
• .338Win 16,2g (250gr) Lapua .338 (100-1300yds) 856 m/sec 2808 ft/sec
#335-2180
• empty / ballistic cam without markings (for costumizing)
#335-1723
Re: Steyr SSG 69
Actually thinking about it they did not charge me for the 6.5 cam they sent it free of charge.
Re: Steyr SSG 69
There might be a downside to this if you deal with the UK, when I spoke to Swarovski UK about bikini caps for the ZFM they denied all knowledge of the 'scope and assured me they had never built such a thing so Germany is probably a better option..
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