1935 RMZ PPK
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1935 RMZ PPK
Hi all,
Thought I would share this with everyone,
I came across a very, very, nice and rare find last November, a de-activated PPK "RZM" in immaculate condition with it's equally rare and valuable 1938 Nazi Party issue holster.
PPK's that were marked RZM are very rare and were for the National-Sozialistische Deutsche Arbeiterpartei, better known as the NSDAP, or Nazi Party. They were marked for the purchasing branch who procured equipment and materials for the Third Reich. In German this was the Reichzeugmeisterei. These RZM marked examples were only issued to high ranking Nazi party officials.
The Serial number on this example dates it from 1935, it has a spare magazine "Mauser Bannered" and a 1938 dated holster.
It's in stunning condition, with it's original correct mag complete with Bakelite floor plate extension, the only damage being a slight chip on the right hand grip, no rust, no pits and 99.5% deep blued finish!
It comes with some very interesting provenance, The chap I bought it form's father was an officer in the Durham Light Infantry during WW2, he was presented with this pistol and holster by the Dutch resistance when they liberated a town somewhere in Holland apparently, family folk law...perhaps, but an interesting and plausible story.
His father died last year and he "inherited" the pistol after finding it among his late fathers possessions, his wife went apoplectic when he brought it home and told him to get rid of it, thats where I come in!
Beauty isn't it, one for my personal collection!
Cheers, John.
Thought I would share this with everyone,
I came across a very, very, nice and rare find last November, a de-activated PPK "RZM" in immaculate condition with it's equally rare and valuable 1938 Nazi Party issue holster.
PPK's that were marked RZM are very rare and were for the National-Sozialistische Deutsche Arbeiterpartei, better known as the NSDAP, or Nazi Party. They were marked for the purchasing branch who procured equipment and materials for the Third Reich. In German this was the Reichzeugmeisterei. These RZM marked examples were only issued to high ranking Nazi party officials.
The Serial number on this example dates it from 1935, it has a spare magazine "Mauser Bannered" and a 1938 dated holster.
It's in stunning condition, with it's original correct mag complete with Bakelite floor plate extension, the only damage being a slight chip on the right hand grip, no rust, no pits and 99.5% deep blued finish!
It comes with some very interesting provenance, The chap I bought it form's father was an officer in the Durham Light Infantry during WW2, he was presented with this pistol and holster by the Dutch resistance when they liberated a town somewhere in Holland apparently, family folk law...perhaps, but an interesting and plausible story.
His father died last year and he "inherited" the pistol after finding it among his late fathers possessions, his wife went apoplectic when he brought it home and told him to get rid of it, thats where I come in!
Beauty isn't it, one for my personal collection!
Cheers, John.
Re: 1935 RMZ PPK
A cracking little thing isn't it. Sad that such things have to be de-acts in order to be held by the majority of people in this country.
Re: 1935 RMZ PPK
Very smart looking , is it 9mm ? shame about the deact , you sure it is :lol: A good bit of history just a shame we cant shoot them .
Dave
Dave
Re: 1935 RMZ PPK
Salut,
+1 , such a crime to deact such a beauty ...
I thought a Politische Leiter Modell normally has "party" grips ? yours could maybe also be a RSHA issued pistol, does it have a serial # around the muzzle ?
In any case , a splendid one , thanks very much for showing it
+1 , such a crime to deact such a beauty ...

I thought a Politische Leiter Modell normally has "party" grips ? yours could maybe also be a RSHA issued pistol, does it have a serial # around the muzzle ?
In any case , a splendid one , thanks very much for showing it

Re: 1935 RMZ PPK
Cheers Guys,
Cracking little pistol...de-activated but until those in power see sense thats the only way we can own such things.....unless it was made pre 1919.....unless I want to dispatch a Deer....hang on that can't be right....it would make no sense at all :lol:
Cracking little pistol...de-activated but until those in power see sense thats the only way we can own such things.....unless it was made pre 1919.....unless I want to dispatch a Deer....hang on that can't be right....it would make no sense at all :lol:
Re: 1935 RMZ PPK
What a find, must be worth a pretty penny. I wonder if any records survived the war that would tell you who it was issued to, or at least a local branch or department of the party to which it was shipped...
If it was mine I think I'd have to send it abroad and have it put back into working order, it's a crying shame to see it castrated like that
If it was mine I think I'd have to send it abroad and have it put back into working order, it's a crying shame to see it castrated like that

Re: 1935 RMZ PPK
Er, 9mm??Dave 101 wrote:Very smart looking , is it 9mm ? shame about the deact , you sure it is :lol: A good bit of history just a shame we cant shoot them .
Dave
PPK = 7.65mm/.32ACP
Re: 1935 RMZ PPK
9mm = 9mm Kurz/9mm Short/.380 ACP.saddler wrote:
Er, 9mm??
PPK = 7.65mm/.32ACP
PP & PPK made in .22lr, 6.35mm/.25 ACP, 7.65mm/.32ACP and 9mm Kurz/.380 ACP.
In 1978 I was told by my grand dad that the secret to rifle accuracy is, a quality bullet, fired down a quality barrel..... How has that changed?
Guns dont kill people. Dads with pretty Daughters do...!
Guns dont kill people. Dads with pretty Daughters do...!
Re: 1935 RMZ PPK
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9mm kurz is not really a German WW2 military caliber. The Browning 10/22, the Bereta and the Vz are, as far as I know, the only one chambered for that cartridge. They are all foreign designed and usually as soon as the German took over their production they swift it back to 7.65.
But you are correct , there are some WW2 PPK in 9mm kurz but they are extremely rare. All the RZM marked ones were made in 7.65.
I wonder if any records survived the war that would tell you who it was issued to,
Adolf blew his brains off with a PPK while bitting at the same time on a cyanure pill - Very thorough kind of chap he was :lol: ...
9mm kurz is not really a German WW2 military caliber. The Browning 10/22, the Bereta and the Vz are, as far as I know, the only one chambered for that cartridge. They are all foreign designed and usually as soon as the German took over their production they swift it back to 7.65.
But you are correct , there are some WW2 PPK in 9mm kurz but they are extremely rare. All the RZM marked ones were made in 7.65.
I wonder if any records survived the war that would tell you who it was issued to,
Adolf blew his brains off with a PPK while bitting at the same time on a cyanure pill - Very thorough kind of chap he was :lol: ...
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Re: 1935 RMZ PPK
Morning all,
The family story I was told, regarding it's capture is very plausible, I would add that it's highly likely the Gestapo individual it was "liberated" from probably ended up hanging from the nearest lamp post !!!
Indeed quite a lot of the deac Luger's and PPK's have come onto the market over the years after being found in "Grandads sock draw" with capture stories attached.
Obviously family Chinese whispers, 67 years and reading Warlord comics in the 70's might have...how shall we say... skewed the truth...but this story came from a Geordie and I always trust Geordie's.
I will continue to research and will report back!
Cheers, John.
The family story I was told, regarding it's capture is very plausible, I would add that it's highly likely the Gestapo individual it was "liberated" from probably ended up hanging from the nearest lamp post !!!
Indeed quite a lot of the deac Luger's and PPK's have come onto the market over the years after being found in "Grandads sock draw" with capture stories attached.
Obviously family Chinese whispers, 67 years and reading Warlord comics in the 70's might have...how shall we say... skewed the truth...but this story came from a Geordie and I always trust Geordie's.
I will continue to research and will report back!
Cheers, John.
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