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I spent to day messing with my 38 special re loading gear. Yes I know it was fathers day but I aint got time for all that crap.
I started off sizing with a NDFS die which was OK but slow because they are not carbide so I switched to a Lee carbide sizer de capper.
I then primed using a Lee auto prime one of the original ones not the new version. The next job was to expand the case mouth the NDFS (North Devon Shooting Services) expander die is a cracker its the best expanding die I have ever used for 38 special it did a great job.
Powder choice proved a bit of a challenge I have lots of vitavouri powders but I could not find any suitable load data for undelever rifle.
I eventually went with Unique I used the data from the Lyman cast bullet hand book. I used a Lee powder measure the one I have is a one off it works with the auto disc thingies but the powder measure is free standing and works by operating a hand lever. I have never seen another example of this powder measure in the whole of my shooting career. I cant even remember were I got it. I might post a picture.
Any way I seated the bullets using the NDFS seater die then crimped them with a Lee crimp die.
A good day I just need to go shoot them now. The whole of re loading process was carried out using my Wamadet press sat at my computer desk.

I used 4.4 grains of Unique does any one have any load data you can share for the Vitavouri powders in 38 special for underlever rifles to be used on a 25 yard in door range..

Unfortunately no load data for Vit powders but -- well, that sounds an awfully slow way to load .38 spec rounds for an underlever. Why not just use the Lee dies?
I know the measure you mean, although not seen one for years. For my gallery rifle rounds I use a Lee turret and auto-disc measure. Turns out good ammo quick and easy.

Im not in any hurry. I dont like turret presses. Had one got rid of it.

I used to load with Vit310, very clean burning and gave great results, but only loaded .357

38 spl load I use is 3.2gr of Howitzer Zero. Pretty much on a par with Viht 310. This is with a 150gr pill

Alpha1 wrote: I used a Lee powder measure the one I have is a one off it works with the auto disc thingies but the powder measure is free standing and works by operating a hand lever. I have never seen another example of this powder measure in the whole of my shooting career. I cant even remember were I got it. I might post a picture.

Sounds like a cross between the Perfect Powder Measure and the Delux Perfect Powder Measure.

Hi Alpha,

I have used N320 in the past to good effect - something like 3.4 under a variety of heads (but check Viht load data).

This was a free tub to me, as I normally use HP38 (again, circa the same charge weights) under a 158 LRN.

Usual caveats apply as with all load data.

BW,

Simon

Mattnall wrote:

Alpha1 wrote: I used a Lee powder measure the one I have is a one off it works with the auto disc thingies but the powder measure is free standing and works by operating a hand lever. I have never seen another example of this powder measure in the whole of my shooting career. I cant even remember were I got it. I might post a picture.

Sounds like a cross between the Perfect Powder Measure and the Delux Perfect Powder Measure.

I believe this is the machine Alpha was referring to:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n_PYzYQY45I

1066 wrote: I believe this is the machine Alpha was referring to:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n_PYzYQY45I

Ah, "Lee Discontinued Products". That's why you never see them.

But, as an aside, the Perfect Powder Measure has been one of the most accurate measures I've used.

Yes thats the one only mine is mounted on a posh machined aluminium base so I can plonk it down on any flat surface.