LMT Straight Pull

[Joe Pugh]

Hi all.

Has anybody got any experience with the LMT straight pull AR style rifle in 5.56 / .223?

Specifically this on - http://emrr.org.uk/lewis-machine-and-to ... -charging/


This dosent seem to be getting as much attention as say the Bradly arms - Lantac - SGC and the like.

I know the AR threads have been done many times over hear but I cant find too much about this specific rifle.

Any information or experience on one would be good to hear :)

Thanks.

[breacher]

Cannot comment on 5.56mm calibre model in particular but my .308 version has been nothing short of fantastic for me.

I should imagine the 5.56mm would be just as good.

[Maggot]

Hi all.

Has anybody got any experience with the LMT straight pull AR style rifle in 5.56 / .223?

Specifically this on - http://emrr.org.uk/lewis-machine-and-to ... -charging/


This dosent seem to be getting as much attention as say the Bradly arms - Lantac - SGC and the like.

I know the AR threads have been done many times over hear but I cant find too much about this specific rifle.

Any information or experience on one would be good to hear :)

Thanks.

That would be because they cost an arm and a leg, but are really nice pieces of engineering.

[David Nimrod]

Ok, I'm sure I'll get shot down for this... but what the hell!

Isn't a straight pull version of what was designed as a semi/full auto Rifle, a bit of a bodge..?

Why not just go for a bolt action..? Much more elegant surely... or am I missing something..?

[Joe Pugh]

Ok, I'm sure I'll get shot down for this... but what the hell!

Isn't a straight pull version of what was designed as a semi/full auto Rifle, a bit of a bodge..?

Why not just go for a bolt action..? Much more elegant surely... or am I missing something..?

For the most part the straight pull rifles are set up to be shot at competitions like the CSR (Civilian Service Rifle).

The AR style of rifle suits this as it's faster to run than a bolt gun is probobly lighter with more magazine capacity and has all of the features like safety, mag release, bolt release etc at your finger tips - literaly.

That's what I see in them compared to bolt guns. Of which I have plenty of :)

[breacher]

Ok, I'm sure I'll get shot down for this... but what the hell!

Isn't a straight pull version of what was designed as a semi/full auto Rifle, a bit of a bodge..?

Why not just go for a bolt action..? Much more elegant surely... or am I missing something..?

Elegant ? Beauty is in the eye of the beholder.

The in-line stock, receiver and barrel setup is said to help re accuracy.

The platform is very modular - one can modify / customise easily.

It crosses disclipines with ease - I have used mine in McQueen, F class, gallery rifle and CSR

[Maggot]

Ok, I'm sure I'll get shot down for this... but what the hell!

Isn't a straight pull version of what was designed as a semi/full auto Rifle, a bit of a bodge..?

Why not just go for a bolt action..? Much more elegant surely... or am I missing something..?

Elegant ? Beauty is in the eye of the beholder.

The in-line stock, receiver and barrel setup is said to help re accuracy.

The platform is very modular - one can modify / customise easily.

It crosses disclipines with ease - I have used mine in McQueen, F class, gallery rifle and CSR

Elegant and accurate are 2 different things. As far as I remember I have never purchased a rifle based on its looks, and I never will.

As Brian says, the inline set up reduces or removes the spoked wheel effect in a similar way to a tube gun. As much as possible goes backwards and the brake takes care of what is left. This is a common design in most of not all current service rifles, but very, very well done on the LMTs.

The straight pull thing is a moot point. Would you gladly take a perfectly serviceable M14 and chop it about if you did not have to? Course not. Sadly (Depending on your viewpoint) only the mob and a few indivduals over here can hapilly shoot semi auto full bores, so the rest of us taylor what we have for comp shooting.

Quite a few turn up at a CSR instruction course with an AR and a standard cocking handle. Clearly this is not ideal as the only time you would touch it with a standard rifle would be for loading/clearing or stoppages. In a CSR or other environment you would need to come out or the aim every time which is against the marksmanship principles. Many CSR bods/service shots will stay on aim, shoot with their noses touching the original cocking handle, watch their splash, and adjust if required (shot must be released and folowed through etc etc). The head stays where it is an dif you get it right you might not even have to move your hand far off the pistol grip.

THIS is why the rifles are "Bodged", it is a design for a purpose AND NOT a butchered piece for collection. Some rifles are in reds, purples....one company even offered them in pink briefly.

My AR is based as follows.

I went to a well known, able CSR championship winning gun plumber and said "Please build me a competitive CSR rifle based on what you would suggest". The only thing I have changed is the grip and the stock to a UBR. It rattles a bit, its fine.

The rifle does its bit when I do mine.

I dont have enlarged this and that, the only reason I nearly went for a BAD leaver was to make holding open easier from the left but it turned out to be just another moustrap so I binned the idea. No torches, EBS, Fore grips, barricade spikes, lazers, kitchen sinks, bipods, stop watches, god knows what else....

I did have an ambi safety but that was bright yellow so it could be seen by a safety sup on either side, no other reason.

The LMTs are in use as a section sharp shooters rifle with our own and various armies...says it all really. Had I not got a perfectly decent competitive rifle from Bradley Arms I might have considered an LMT, the only thing for me being the price.

[Blackstuff]

Ok, I'm sure I'll get shot down for this... but what the hell!

Isn't a straight pull version of what was designed as a semi/full auto Rifle, a bit of a bodge..?

Yes to an extent

Why not just go for a bolt action..? Much more elegant surely... or am I missing something..?
And yes

I don't think I've ever met anyone who favoured one rifle over the other on 'elegance' grounds, but then I don't know many gay people HALF joking

[David Nimrod]

I don't think I've ever met anyone who favoured one rifle over the other on 'elegance' grounds, but then I don't know many gay people HALF joking

This is what I call 'elegant'... a CZ 550 FS .308

As to 'gay'... well, those 'Tactical' rifles have always struck me as rather 'camp'

[Blackstuff]

I wish the general public, police and the government thought the same then maybe they'd be forced to leave them alone! #gaygunrights