45/70

[marko686]

Just purchased 45/70 original marlin and from what ive read the best powder for these is accurate for the 405gr , but having bother trying to find somewhere in Scotland that stocks it , if anyone knows of any stockist that would be great thanks.

[dromia]

You won't get Accurate powders here now it is called Lovex, they say that the Lovex powders are the same as the Accurate but I have never found it so with the Lovex equivalents having very obviously different burning rates. My Accurate loads were definitely no transferrable to the Lovex equivalents.

Which Accurate powder were you looking at? If it was 5744 then I would recommend Viht N120 as being very good.

Don't get too hung up on specific powder brands, there is no magical accuracy in a name or number, once you have the best burning rate of powder for your application then nearly any make with the same or there abouts will work regardless of the label on the container will work.

Some powders may have different attributes that people value like being bulkier or whatever but that has no noticeable effect on performance all other things being equal.

[marko686]

Hi dromia, I was looking at 2015 accurate which Wilson & Wilson stock down in kent but who knows how much carriage would be involved , kinda hoping some else who has 45/70 and uses 405g heads to recommend a smokeless powder that they use :)
but yeah I understand what your saying , I was looking at accurate because the lee reloading book said use that one .

[Sim G]

Firstly, when you say "original", do you mean pre-2009 Remington or pre 1914....?

[dromia]

Lee reloading, well that isn't a good start.

Personally I use Swiss 1 1/2fg black powder and 405-500 gn bullets, heads are what?

Never seen the need to compromise a perfectly good black powder cartridge with smokeless, unless perhaps if you are after live quarry at hundreds of yards distance and flatter shooting is something you think you need.

In saying that black powder and cast or swaged lead bullets didn't seem to be a problem when it came to killing the American bison to near extinction

[25Pdr]

Hi Mark,
Have you asked John B at Club? He does Lovex.

Lovex Reloading Data.

http://wapenkamer.nl/wp-content/uploads ... e_2015.pdf

[marko686]

Yeah I was going to ask john , I mean original pre remington and I don't want to use b/p as I have been told it corrodes the barrel faster than smokeless :) but I wouldn't know as im new to 45/70 and new to reloading :)

[25Pdr]

Yeah I was going to ask john , I mean original pre remington and I don't want to use b/p as I have been told it corrodes the barrel faster than smokeless :) but I wouldn't know as im new to 45/70 and new to reloading :)

Used to use Black Powder in a Ruger Blackhawk 45 Colt...Wonderfull....Go for it....Keeps Midges away and you wont have to poke your Rifle through these bloody barrels at Blair Adam as it may set them on fire.

To protect your barrel after just pour some Virgin's Urine through it after use..

Errr! Hold on a minute...Forgot you stay in Greenock...

Never mind.

[marko686]

thanks for that guide jim :)

[dromia]

Whoever told you black powder is corrosive is talking pure fantasy, black powder is not corrosive.

Black powder fouling is hygroscopic as is most fouling smokeless or black, however there is a bit more fouling with black. If you are someone who doesn't clean their guns then you will get more rust with black than you will with smokeless. The hygroscopic fouling draws moisture from the air and holds it against the metal thus encouraging rusting.

However if you are one of those sensible people that clean their guns after use then you will have no problem with black or smokeless, the only thing with black powder cartridge is that you do need to ensure that the inside of the cases are cleaned well.