Gun cabinets in holiday homes

[shotgun sam]

I am looking for for a bit of advice about if you buy a holiday home and you fit a gun cabinet in it do you need the local FEO to come and pass it?

Sam

[hitchphil]

Depends what you are using it for? if you have rights to shoot & hunt over land that the home is on, or near, then its reasonable storage precautions during temporary occupation when in use on holiday (so no).

If that means you go out one or 2 nights & leave it locked up there then again its reasonable precautions.

If you left the firearm there & returned home then its unattended / unoccupied & might not be looked on as reasonable so yes get it approved first?

[Countryman]

Assuming you aren't planning to leave a gun in your largely unattended holiday home for your occasional use then no.

It would be like having a secure storage in your car. Totally sensible.

[shotgun sam]

It would only be used when we were at the holiday home and taken home when we finished our holiday

[safetyfirst]

Best bet is to call the firearms dept in the county where the holiday home is and tell them you've got a police approved cabinet you'll be fitting and what you'll be keeping in it, then see if they want to come say hello.

[Chapuis]

All the law requires is that you keep your firearms secure when not in use and this is explained on your firearms certificate so why inform anyone.
To provide a security cabinet in your holiday home seems like a sensible and reasonable precaution that no one can argue against. It has to be better than an improvised but still acceptable arrangement that many make when travelling with firearms e.g. separating ammo and bolt or forearm plus security cords or chains.
Its always worth reading what is says in the H.O. guide on firearms security.

[Chuck]

All the law requires is that you keep your firearms secure when not in use and this is explained on your firearms certificate so why inform anyone.

What the law says is irrelevant as many areas make their own rules as we see on here time and again. They cannot be trusted. Should something go wrong then NOT telling them would be their excuse to get nasty IMO.

It's catch 22 with them, damned if you do, damned if you don't.

[Chapuis]

Chuck what can go wrong if you take every reasonable precaution, and installing a cabinet can be considered nothing but being more than reasonable. No need to be constantly running to the firearms department seeking permission for something that requires no permission.

Comply with the law but tell them nothing more than they need to know.

[@nd]

Not to hijack the thread and along similar lines.
I would like to do some shooting on a private range near to where my inlaws live when i next visit,we stay usually for one or two nights.
My car is fitted with deadlocks,an alarm,a tracker and a bolted in Brattonsound safe.
My rifle has an easily removable barrel.
Do you think i am taking enough precaution if i was to lock the barrel and ammo in the car safe.the stock and action locked to a radiator in the house and keep the bolt on me.
And

[Dark Skies]

Chuck what can go wrong if you take every reasonable precaution, and installing a cabinet can be considered nothing but being more than reasonable. No need to be constantly running to the firearms department seeking permission for something that requires no permission.

Comply with the law but tell them nothing more than they need to know.

I concur. If you have taken every precaution within the scope of the law then that is sufficient.

If, however, you involve the police (when you need not) you are introducing the opportunity for them to make up their own rules as they go along, often displaying their own ignorance of the law, and for things to go pear-shaped.