The UK's Finest Independent Forum for Shooters and Gun Owners. Est 2010.

Mr Cameron will also propose a "new EU-wide ban on all high-powered semi-automatic weapons".
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-35086934

Could he possibly demonstrate to the nation how imposing a ban on legally held SA rifles will ever prevent terrorists from acquiring & using illegal full-auto weapons instead of treating the public as a bunch of morons & fobbing them into a sense of false-security ?

And me thinking Blair was bad ...
oh well ... can still vote UKIP next time round

froggy wrote:Mr Cameron will also propose a "new EU-wide ban on all high-powered semi-automatic weapons".
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-35086934

Could he possibly demonstrate to the nation how imposing a ban on legally held SA rifles will ever prevent terrorists from acquiring & using illegal full-auto weapons instead of treating the public as a bunch of morons & fobbing them into a sense of false-security ?

And me thinking Blair was bad ...
oh well ... can still vote UKIP next time round

Not that it'll do much good... 3 million people did this time and got 1 seat. SNP had about 1/6th of the votes and got HOW many?

Democracy my arse.

Point is that if David can not display better judgment than let's say the Greens or Lib-Dems then he deserves to be relegated to the same voting intentions bag by the shooting community.

Oh, I agree!

Could he possibly demonstrate to the nation how imposing a ban on legally held SA rifles will ever prevent terrorists from acquiring & using illegal full-auto weapons instead of treating the public as a bunch of morons & fobbing them into a sense of false-security ?

WHY, they have already "taken ALL guns off the streets"! They robbed you of semi auto "hi powered rifles" after Hungerford so WTF is "DAVE" on about!

SO really: is ANYONE surprised! Oh wait - Dave's a shooter, we'll vote for him...

Will he give up HIS armed security then, can we see the police handing in their guns immediately afterwards since we are all perfectly safe now that they have disarmed the law abiding people while leaving the terrorist entrance doors off their hinges! Of course not!

BTW: in the UK we do NOT have "high powered semi automatic weapons" - we have sporting firearms... We have LOW powered Semi auto (.22RF) and shotguns! Anyone still not convinced enough and still thinkig this is just a joke and their guns are safe??

Why not just disarm all of Belgium: THEY seem to be the problem, NOT anyone in the UK!

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-34871872

The EU should crack down on the illegal gun trade, the prime minister will urge in the wake of the Paris attacks.
OK, well I 100% agree more needs to be done to stop the illegal trade of firearms. This in itself should have no impact on legitimate UK shooters

At this week's European Council, David Cameron will call for "greater co-operation" and a halt to the traffic in "guns from the western Balkans".
Agreed, see above. This in itself should have no impact on legitimate UK shooters

Mr Cameron will also propose a "new EU-wide ban on all high-powered semi-automatic weapons".
Hmm.... This is the one I struggle with as it is impossible to know what he really means. Are we to assume the intention is to the word, all high-powered semi-automatic weapons and does this purely cover S5 S/A and accordingly F/A firearms which are outside the reach of the vast majority of us. Or does it include S1 and S2 S/A shotguns? They keep impressing the word 'High-powered' so does this exclude .22 Rimfire S/A rifles?

My worry is how much further this is taken if it is imposed on the UK.

I 100% agree more needs to be done to stop the illegal trade of firearms.
+1 , as a general rule I can not believe anybody has actually ever agreed with illegal firearms on the first place ? Isn't a bit rich from somebody who failed so utterly miserably to know or control who comes in the country ?


Mr Cameron will also propose a "new EU-wide ban on all high-powered semi-automatic weapons".
Hmm.... This is the one I struggle with as it is impossible to know what he really means. Are we to assume the intention is to the word, all high-powered semi-automatic weapons etc...
The wording is pretty clear. Pretending that some legal firearms, that have not been used in terrorist attacks, are a problem in order to mask the shocking incompetence in preventing criminals to acquire illegal weapons is simply a farce IMO. An intelligence Prime Minister should now better unless he is totally unfit for the job.

Damn ... if only I could have that 10 minutes "after" fag & pillow talk with his exhausted but contented Home Secretary to put it right ...

Time to start looking for a job in the USA I think, but obviously not California, Chicago or New York

Alan

EU's tyranny or US one, I'd choose Switzerland every day. Far more in tune with my concept of democracy

Time to start looking for a job in the USA I think, but obviously not California, Chicago or New York

Why not those places 20 series, all are tightly conrolled gun free zones aren't they - perfectly safe...

In fact California sums up just how idiotic these plans are.

Surely this is a Human Rights issue - not to be perscuted, your rightts respected etc etc....and a right to a "fair" trial and punishment..seems that's ALL missing here. Found GUILTY by some delusional bureaucrat and now you're going to have your property confiscated..how is that LEGAL??? Retrospective criminalisation of the people

There must be some hotshot "no win no fee" lawyers who could take this on - even if just in the UK!?

At least in the USA they stand a chance of saying "NO" froggy!