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Remington SPS Tactical not grouping well

Posted: Thu Aug 13, 2015 8:27 am
by ellmerfudd
Well i went out yesterday with my Remington 700 SPS Tactical 20" .223, run the barrel in whilst zeroing, and then tried some three shot groups....not impressed at all grouping all over the place, did manage a couple of bullseyes but second two were a good inch and half away and probably half inch apart, think i need to find some more ammo to try as i only had geco 63gr. I originally wanted a PSS but they are like rocking horse poop, where would be the best place to try and get a PSS stock from as most people seem to replace stocks first job. P.s its not my shooting, i can cloverleaf with a couple of lads PSS at the range, im really disheartened now, could it be the stock or ammo not suiting my gun, gun bought new with barrel recrowned, and run in 1 shot clean etc helpsign

Re: Remington SPS Tactical not grouping well

Posted: Thu Aug 13, 2015 9:18 am
by WelshShooter
What twist is the barrel? If it's a 1:12" it may not be stabilising the 63gr bullets? I'd try different brands of ammo first, have you tried 55gr bullets? How about handloads (if you have the equipment that is). Do you have any pics of the target? Also what does the Crown look like now? If it's a botch job then that will more than likely be your answer. I'm also wondering why it was recrowned if it's a new rifle.

Re: Remington SPS Tactical not grouping well

Posted: Thu Aug 13, 2015 9:32 am
by saddler
A. Try different brands/weights of bullets
B. The gun may need a couple of hundred rounds through it before it starts performing as it should.

Re: Remington SPS Tactical not grouping well

Posted: Thu Aug 13, 2015 9:56 am
by M99
Inch and a half with Geco is about as good as you can expect! (I take it you were at 100yds?)

if it is a new SPS Tactical it will have a 1:9 twist barrel, so should be no issue with bullet weight - just poor ammo!

Mike

Re: Remington SPS Tactical not grouping well

Posted: Thu Aug 13, 2015 10:12 am
by Blackstuff
ellmerfudd wrote:did manage a couple of bullseyes but second two were a good inch and half away and probably half inch apart, think i need to find some more ammo to try as i only had geco 63gr
?? So the group was half an inch and you're complaining?? wtf Or do you mean at first it was slotting them in the bull then for no reason it started throwing to the side? Could be the scope is loose if its jumpong all over the place, or as mentioned, it could just be the ammo

Re: Remington SPS Tactical not grouping well

Posted: Thu Aug 13, 2015 10:12 am
by TattooedGun
Also, even if this ammo works in a friends rifle, it doesn't mean that it will match well with your rifle.

Agree, probably bad ammo. Try some more. :)

Re: Remington SPS Tactical not grouping well

Posted: Thu Aug 13, 2015 11:38 am
by ellmerfudd
I was at 100 yds and its 1:9 twist, i shot at targets and i had one bang in centre then two out at an inch each, barrel was recrowned as the place i got it from does them automatically as they say they are not good from factory

Re: Remington SPS Tactical not grouping well

Posted: Thu Aug 13, 2015 11:56 am
by TattooedGun
My Rem 700 police had a factory crown up until recently and although it wasn't perfect, I loaded rounds to .75 MOA (3/4" at 100 yards).

I haven't managed to get out with it since getting it min-headspaced, threaded and recrowned yet. But 1.5 MOA from factory ammo doesn't seem bad...

Were your friends rifles you were using fed the same/factory ammo, or reloaded ammo? to achieve the better results?

Re: Remington SPS Tactical not grouping well

Posted: Thu Aug 13, 2015 11:57 am
by ellmerfudd
ttiuwp For some reason i cant upload any pictures, unless im doing something wrong

Re: Remington SPS Tactical not grouping well

Posted: Thu Aug 13, 2015 12:01 pm
by saddler
The gun will settle down & start performing once it has had a couple of hundred rounds through it...so early days.

Get some rounds through it THEN start worrying about poor groups