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VZ58 MARS 223 vs 7.62x39

Posted: Sat Aug 01, 2015 12:54 pm
by Sixshot6
Hey guys I'm thinking of trading calibers for this platform. Do I stand to gain anything going from 223 to 7.62x39?

Re: VZ58 MARS 223 vs 7.62x39

Posted: Sat Aug 01, 2015 1:37 pm
by bnz41
Bigger holes in your paper targets but nothing else IMO. loose distance and accuracy is very poosible.

Re: VZ58 MARS 223 vs 7.62x39

Posted: Sat Aug 01, 2015 1:38 pm
by Sixshot6
bnz41 wrote:Bigger holes in your paper targets but nothing else IMO. loose distance and accuracy is very poosible.
I believe up to about 100-200 which is what I do tops it out performs 223/5.56 also?

Re: VZ58 MARS 223 vs 7.62x39

Posted: Sat Aug 01, 2015 1:54 pm
by bnz41
Sixshot6 wrote:
bnz41 wrote:Bigger holes in your paper targets but nothing else IMO. loose distance and accuracy is very poosible.
I believe up to about 100-200 which is what I do tops it out performs 223/5.56 also?[/quote]

If your only shooting 100-200 then you maybe correct, but for longer distance out to 4-600 stick with what you have, .223 plinking ammo Barnaul is a £1 cheaper than the same make in 7.62x39 if you do not reload.

Re: VZ58 MARS 223 vs 7.62x39

Posted: Sat Aug 01, 2015 2:18 pm
by snayperskaya
You could say I'm biased but I would say go with 7.62x39, it's a good round out to around 300m (that said I can drop Fig11s at Sennybridge easily with irons with my 7.62x39 Romanian AKM) and it's what the VZ was originally chambered in.You may find you can use milsurp x39 mags which will probably be cheaper than .223 mags.I would say that with the type of rifle it is you won't necessarily be shooting for tight groups as such so I'd say go for milsurp x39 ammo at around £28 a hundred.

Re: VZ58 MARS 223 vs 7.62x39

Posted: Sat Aug 01, 2015 2:54 pm
by Sixshot6
snayperskaya wrote:You could say I'm biased but I would say go with 7.62x39, it's a good round out to around 300m (that said I can drop Fig11s at Sennybridge easily with irons with my 7.62x39 Romanian AKM) and it's what the VZ was originally chambered in.You may find you can use milsurp x39 mags which will probably be cheaper than .223 mags.I would say that with the type of rifle it is you won't necessarily be shooting for tight groups as such so I'd say go for milsurp x39 ammo at around £28 a hundred.
I have the 223 already but have got thinking about whether I should have gone the 7.62x39 route and I do have a source of barnaul that makes it worth it too.

Re: VZ58 MARS 223 vs 7.62x39

Posted: Sat Aug 01, 2015 3:25 pm
by HALODIN
I'd say stay with .223, it's a better round at longer distances.

Re: VZ58 MARS 223 vs 7.62x39

Posted: Sat Aug 01, 2015 3:47 pm
by snayperskaya
HALODIN wrote:I'd say stay with .223, it's a better round at longer distances.
But is a VZ really a longer distance rifle?.Much as an AK isn't it more of a relatively close range 'fun gun'?.

(cue irate VZ owners that shoot long distance competitions etc helpsign )

Re: VZ58 MARS 223 vs 7.62x39

Posted: Sat Aug 01, 2015 3:54 pm
by dromia
I'd go for the 7.62x39, it is a far more fun round than the boring fart of the 223, also the 7.62x39 case is near perfect for cast bullets.

Re: VZ58 MARS 223 vs 7.62x39

Posted: Sat Aug 01, 2015 4:27 pm
by Sixshot6
dromia wrote:I'd go for the 7.62x39, it is a far more fun round than the boring fart of the 223, also the 7.62x39 case is near perfect for cast bullets.
I'm of two minds Dromia, do I hang around and wait for the proposed other systems coming like what low mills appears to be doing or do I get the 7.62x39 which is something I believe I should have done in the first place? I was obsessed with distance at the time but now realize I'm never likely to shoot further than 100-200 yards at best. Also I have sorta come up with a way to keep good zero on a vz58 with a scope. It involves using the ali fab defense forend, some Leupold QR rings and a scout style scope.... if I can find the Burris in the uk that is.