Some advice pls guys & gals

[Convict_keeper]

Just a quick one for you knowlegable lot..

If i was looking at buying a rifle which came with a spare barrel would I be correct in thinking that i would need 2 available slots on my ticket? and I would need a moderator on my ticket aswell wouldnt I?

I think I know the answers but just want to check

Cheers

CK

[Robin128]

Yes.

On the moderator front, I have one BR T8 moderator covering my 308win and 223rem. My FAC states it can be used on both.

:)

[Dave 101]

Hi

Three slots altogether , rifle , mod . and spare barrel .

Make it four you may need to go and buy something else one day :lol:

Dave

[ovenpaa]

Yes I can also confirm you need the barrel specified separately, I had a slot that stated .308 barrel for a while but changed it to something different. The moderator on my ticket is just that and is not specified against any single firearm.

Odd that we need to specify an FAC moderator which in some instances is the same item as that used on an air rifle that does not need a certificate in order to own.

[Dangermouse]

On the subject of moderators - and I would love some discussion,
I have read a number of times now that you only need to have a moderator on your FAC if you own a rifle of the same calibre / capable of using that moderator!
Although I have read it I don't believe it for one moment and suspect that it may be one of those areas where a little knowledge is dangerous - please don't anyone try to do this.

I can confirm that if you are stopped searched and we find a moderator on you (not you, johnny scroat bag), you will be arrested for possession of a firearm - assuming that you don't have a FAC with you,

DM

[ovenpaa]

Does that apply to an airgun Moderator as well DM?

[Dangermouse]

I don't think many Officers would know the difference, it would be more the circumstances that it was found that might cause the concern.

The last one I came across was under a passenger seat of a stolen car along with assorted pistol ammunition, in the boot was found a MAC 10 type.

[ovenpaa]

For a .22 calibre moderator I would assume the only way to differentiate is one should have proof marks on it.

If you were to stop a person and find them in possession of a moderator without an FAC on them would you check licensing on the computer or arrest them and check down at the station? Yes I know the vast majority of FAC holders would not leave home with an FAC if they were shooting but given the current renewal issues right now....

For the record, if my FAC or SGC is away for any reason I do not take my firearms out of the cabinet, let alone the house.

[Sandgroper]

On the subject of moderators - and I would love some discussion,
I have read a number of times now that you only need to have a moderator on your FAC if you own a rifle of the same calibre / capable of using that moderator!
Although I have read it I don't believe it for one moment and suspect that it may be one of those areas where a little knowledge is dangerous - please don't anyone try to do this.

I can confirm that if you are stopped searched and we find a moderator on you (not you, johnny scroat bag), you will be arrested for possession of a firearm - assuming that you don't have a FAC with you,

DM

That's is what I always read the the law as saying. Apart from moderators for unlicensed air rifles you need it on your FAC.

What is the law on proofing moderators? I don't think any of the moderators I have owned have ever been proofed. Some have had manufacturer's stamps to indicate max calibre, but I have never seen proof house marks on any of them. I know the C/F moderator I currently have, has no markings, whatsoever on it. - http://www.rusmilitary.com/html/firearms_silencers.htm

And to further muddy the waters look at http://www.reflexsuppressors.co.uk/ and then go to UK licensing

[Robin128]

Firearms Law...2002 Guidance notes to the Police...see Library Section...

"13.71 Sound moderators are subject to certificate control as “items designed to reduce the noise or flash of a firearm”. Sound moderators for .22 rimfire rifles are often used for shooting game or vermin, and in the case of the latter might facilitate more effective pest control.

Sound moderators for full-bore rifles are of questionable effectiveness in reducing disturbance to quarry but can confuse them by diffusing the directional report of a rifle.

They may though be appropriate for reducing hearing damage to the shooter, or to reduce noise nuisance, for example for deer control in urban parks.

The applicant will be expected to demonstrate a “good reason” for noise reduction before
authority is granted.

It should be noted that sound moderators on air weapons or section 2 shot guns are not considered to be component parts.

Chief officers of police should also be aware of the case of Broome v Walter (1989) where it was found that an integral sound moderator, that is one that is part of the firearm, does not require separate authorisation."