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FMJ or expandible bullets

Posted: Fri Apr 15, 2011 8:52 pm
by Col
As a newcomer to full bore rifle shooting I simply buy and load 150 grain FMJ for my .308.The rifle I use is a standard
Remington 700 sporting rifle.I only usually shoot to upwards of 200 yards. I have now put in a variation for another .308
target rifle which I am hoping to be able to use at longer ranges. My question is would a heavier bullet be more beneficial.
I read on this and other forums that 168 or 175 grain bullets stay the distance better,the problem I have is that I cannot seem to find those weight bullets which are FMJ. Most are soft point or hollow point. Would these be deemed by the police as expandible bullets,which I do not have on my ticket

Re: FMJ or expandible bullets

Posted: Fri Apr 15, 2011 8:59 pm
by ovenpaa
Personally I dislike 167/168's for anything over 600 in a .308. My preference is 155 Lap Scenar in a 1:12 twist barrel which works nicely for me, I have tried others but always come back to the 155 Laps which work comfortably from 100 to 1000 yards.

You should be hearing from the 'heavy' mob very shortly who can tell you more about the 175-190's and heavier.

Re: FMJ or expandible bullets

Posted: Fri Apr 15, 2011 9:24 pm
by Dave 101
Hi Col

The heavy bullets you describe would certainly be described as expanding ammo for hunting large game .
Sierra Match Kings are supposedly the best in 155 grain these were designed in the US for the Palma match competition .
http://www.appliedballisticsllc.com/ind ... bullet.pdf
Dave

Re: FMJ or expandible bullets

Posted: Fri Apr 15, 2011 9:30 pm
by pe4king
Col wrote:I read on this and other forums that 168 or 175 grain bullets stay the distance better,the problem I have is that I cannot seem to find those weight bullets which are FMJ. Most are soft point or hollow point. Would these be deemed by the police as expandible bullets,which I do not have on my ticket
Lapua Scenar, Sierra match king and other target bullets are hollow point but not expanding therefore no special authority is required to acquire them, and yes 155 gr will get you out to 1000 nicely.

Re: FMJ or expandible bullets

Posted: Fri Apr 15, 2011 10:06 pm
by Robin128
Col,

I use Sierra MatchKings...168 and 175 HPBT

http://www.sportsmanguncentre.co.uk/pro ... 282275'29/

These are not deemed expanding. Sportsmans will post them to you without sight of FAC, unlike expanding (eg Hornady V-max) which I have to buy over the counter... showing FAC allowing their use.

Re: FMJ or expandible bullets

Posted: Sat Apr 16, 2011 7:46 am
by bnz41
Hi Robin128.

What is the maximum distance you have shot the 168gr Matchkings to, I use them but so far only out to 300yrds, would like to try further. Any advice would be helpful.

Re: FMJ or expandible bullets

Posted: Sat Apr 16, 2011 9:09 am
by Robin128
Max I have shot to is about 500 at Sennibridge.

I'll post my loads in a minute...bit busy today...big family get together.

:)

Re: FMJ or expandible bullets

Posted: Sat Apr 16, 2011 9:19 am
by Robin128
Col...in my 26" 1:12 Rem 700 308win

Viht n540 39.7gns cci200 175 MatchKings HPBT match coal 2.800" due to mag constraints...full length resize and trimmed.

BNZ41...same rifle and primers and coal
Rel15 cci200 168 MatchKings HPBT match 42 gns

H4895 38gns...working up to 41.5gns

Re: FMJ or expandible bullets

Posted: Sat Apr 16, 2011 10:50 am
by Jenks
Many years ago I bought some 168grn IMI,(samson) 308win Match cartridges. They were very accurate and the bullets most definitely hollow point though not classified as Expanding. I believe the hollow point was used to shift the Centre of gravity rearward to optimise the bullets potential accuracy.


168 Grn. IMI (Samson) match grade bullet

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Jenks

Re: FMJ or expandible bullets

Posted: Sat Apr 16, 2011 1:58 pm
by Alpha1
I use hornady 155g A max or Sierra match kings