Doubtless I've probably dropped my own clangers in there. Sent to the deputy managing editor of the Evening Standard.Dear Mr Gore
I understand you are the appropriate person to write to regarding editorial complaints about Evening Standard stories. I apologise if you are not, and request that you pass this email on to the person who is.
With reference to the p1 story about antique firearms, published 17 Apr: http://www.standard.co.uk/news/crime/ga ... 67108.html
The reference in par 4 to the Browning Hi-Power and Webley Mk.VI pistols as "antique" firearms is, I'm afraid, outright wrong.
By referring to the Home Office Guidance to the Police on Firearms - https://www.gov.uk/government/uploads/s ... v_2013.pdf - you will see from page 56, section 8.12 that:
"Old firearms which should not benefit from the exemption as antiques are set out below... Revolvers, single-shot pistols and self-loading pistols which are chambered for, and will accept centrefire cartridges of the type .25, .30, .32,.38, .380, .44, .45, .450, .455 and .476 inch, or their metric equivalents including 6.35mm, 7.62mm, 7.63mm, 7.65mm, 8mm and 9mm, unless otherwise specified in the list in Appendix 5."
The Browning Hi-Power, which your reporter notes was issued to the British armed forces until a year or two ago, is chambered in 9mm - one of the cartridges explicitly noted above as not falling within the antique firearms exemption. The Webley Mk.VI, being chambered in .380, is also explicitly exempted. Thus your reporter's statement that "neither gun is classified as an antique" is completely false and misleading.
Despite the attempt to explain how these pistols are supposedly exempt from the law a few pars lower down in the story, the Home Office Guidance (as linked above) clearly shows how section 58 of the Firearms Act 1968, which your reporter presents as some sort of loophole, does not apply to these particular firearms. I am at a loss to understand how this clanger could have made it through newsdesk, copytasting, subs and revise.
Par 6 of the story describes how "thirty firearms including assault rifles, sawn off shotguns, Uzi and a Thompson machine gun were seized from an address in E10," illustrated by the picture at the top of the page. That picture shows a number of low-powered airguns, recognisable by their silver CO2 bottles and the slots in the underside of air rifles, along with what looks like a deactivated Uzi - compare the ejection opening area, above the grip, with a picture of a live Uzi. The plain, unpainted appearance suggests that the weapon's original internals have been removed and a piece of metal welded in their place. Given that the Met did not charge the man they arrested with possession of a live Uzi, I am confident in my diagnosis. For obvious reasons I won't go through each "firearm" one by one to describe their features.
That the picture issued by the Met press office was at such obvious variance with the accompanying press release shouting about "firearms" should have rung alarm bells. It is irresponsible to suggest that seizing toys somehow makes London safer than removing genuine, unlawfully owned firearms from people who should not have them.
Of course, reading between the lines here, it is clear that the story is based on a press release or similar from NABIS, who presumably know and understand these laws fully and yet choose to misrepresent them to the unknowing. I suggest that rather than parrotting them, with a blushing nod to unspecified "campaigners" as if this was some sort of genuine grassroots movement, the Standard's energies would be better spent applying some sceptical rigour to reporting police press statements.
If NABIS' claims about live firearms being successfully passed off as exempt antiques are true, which I consider unlikely, this demonstrates a terrifying lack of understanding of the law by the police and not some exploitable loophole. Any antique firearm not possessed as a "curiosity or ornament", as the Fiearms Act 1968 says, no longer benefits from the section 58 exemption - and in the case of the two non-antique pistols your reporter builds his story around, results in an automatic 5 year prison sentence upon conviction.
I trust future Standard reporting on firearms matters will present them in a more accurate and less misleading light. The public discourse is not helped when police agencies plant misleading and false stories in the press, especially when the press fails to spot them and runs them unchallenged.
Kind regards,
Gaz
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The average reporter or policeman has very little knowledge about firearms ...... but stories about them sell newspapers, so the old adage about 'don't let the truth get in the way of a good story' is as true today as it ever was.
Let's face it, it doesn't matter how legal and considerate we are as shooters, we are all raving loonies in the eyes of the press and others. sign01
Let's face it, it doesn't matter how legal and considerate we are as shooters, we are all raving loonies in the eyes of the press and others. sign01
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I read the article when it was publish & could not make sense of it.
Good job Gaz
Actually, given the number of "firearms incidents" in the Great-London to be covered, I would think the Evening Standard would actually welcome a journalist who knows what he is talking & ready to provide educated quality material.
Then again, since the "Standard" has gone "free", I am not too sure honest impartial journalism is still the core business of the paper ?
Good job Gaz

Actually, given the number of "firearms incidents" in the Great-London to be covered, I would think the Evening Standard would actually welcome a journalist who knows what he is talking & ready to provide educated quality material.
Then again, since the "Standard" has gone "free", I am not too sure honest impartial journalism is still the core business of the paper ?
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Well looking at it Gaz shouldn't this paragraph:
should read as:The Browning Hi-Power, which your reporter notes was issued to the British armed forces until a year or two ago, is chambered in 9mm - one of the cartridges explicitly noted above as not falling within the antique firearms exemption. The Webley Mk.VI, being chambered in .380, is also explicitly exempted. Thus your reporter's statement that "neither gun is classified as an antique" is completely false and misleading.
The Browning Hi-Power, which your reporter notes was issued to the British armed forces until a year or two ago, is chambered in 9mm - one of the cartridges explicitly noted above as not falling within the antique firearms exemption. The Webley Mk.VI, being chambered in .380, is also explicitly exempted. Thus your reporter's statement that "either gun is classified as an antique" is completely false and misleading.
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Yeah I caught that one as well and thought wtfwtf . Journalists mate, incapable of proofreading their own stuff. You're going to look a right prat when that gets read Gaz.Fedaykin wrote:Well looking at it Gaz shouldn't this paragraph:
should read as:The Browning Hi-Power, which your reporter notes was issued to the British armed forces until a year or two ago, is chambered in 9mm - one of the cartridges explicitly noted above as not falling within the antique firearms exemption. The Webley Mk.VI, being chambered in .380, is also explicitly exempted. Thus your reporter's statement that "neither gun is classified as an antique" is completely false and misleading.
The Browning Hi-Power, which your reporter notes was issued to the British armed forces until a year or two ago, is chambered in 9mm - one of the cartridges explicitly noted above as not falling within the antique firearms exemption. The Webley Mk.VI, being chambered in .380, is also explicitly exempted. Thus your reporter's statement that "either gun is classified as an antique" is completely false and misleading.
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As I say in my professional life time and again, everyone needs a second pair of eyes! One day I'll write one of these and get it all right first time...
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Gaz, whenever I have to write to someone or write some article for something I always get the missus to read it to save myself any embarrassment. A second pair of eyes is the way to go, plus you will always get an honest if not sometimes brutal critic.. Keep at it kid, you'll get it right eventuallyGaz wrote:As I say in my professional life time and again, everyone needs a second pair of eyes! One day I'll write one of these and get it all right first time...

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I would send a corrected version with a cover note Gaz.
Last thing we would want them to do is publish that with the mistake in place. Or give them a call.
Last thing we would want them to do is publish that with the mistake in place. Or give them a call.
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They won't publish it - it was a note to the deputy managing editor (think senior editor and HR bloke rolled into one). I'll wait and see if I get a reply.
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