Wilson neck sizing/seating dies

[Alpha1]

I have no experience with these type of dies or using a arbor press. I have scoured the internet and read up on the use of them.
Some of the earlier Lee dies the ones you used with a mallet look familiar.
So what is the advantage of using this system against ordinary neck dies.

I am curios some body who shall remain nameless has a holiday home in Florida and will be spending the xmas hols over there.
So I have looked it up and a bald eagle press can be had for very little money and any amount of Wilson dies could end up in the UK in January at daft amounts of money.
So is it worth the bother.

[John MH]

Yes

[EagerNoSkill]

Wait Buy BRITISH!!!!
Wait for the Shooting Shed "Improved Super Dupa Arbor Press]" due early 2013

Not some chinese knock-off made by enslaved labour

Get the Wilson dies in meantime.

As per Spud's video's and my experience you get the following:
1. Better feeling of the bullet / neck seating tension
2. Excellent bullet / neck alignment
3. Improve runout : I cannot measure runout (to 0.000 in - I may get 0.0005 in 1 in 10 cartridges) this is even when I measure past the Ogive toward bullet point
Assumes good brass and case prep

Another benefits of this system is that it is field mobile! :shakeshout:
You can load bullets long and do final seating / testing on the firing point / car!!

[John MH]

Yep, whats not to like.

[Alpha1]

Yep, whats not to like.

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[Gun Pimp]

I have no experience with these type of dies or using a arbor press. I have scoured the internet and read up on the use of them.
Some of the earlier Lee dies the ones you used with a mallet look familiar.
So what is the advantage of using this system against ordinary neck dies.

If you load at home and you are happy with the level of accuracy you are achieving - very little.

The main advantage is that they allow benchrest shooters to re-load on the point between matches - using the same dozen cases (to maximise on accuracy). BR shooters get away with light neck-sizing only - due to 'fitted' necks/chambers - so we use a neck-die and a seater-die with a small arbor press.

However, the Wilson seater dies being of 'benchrest' quality, tend to seat straighter rounds than most of the screw-in press dies and are now available for most cartridges so, as I have an arbor press already, I do prefer to seat with a Wilson hand seater die for most cartridges.

Also, if you mess about with load development, it means you can take your arbor press, a couple of dozen sized, primed cases to the range, then play about with your loads and seating depths (easy to vary seating-depth with a Wilson die) on range. Much quicker and cheaper to sort out an accurate load like this.

[Alpha1]

I have done a lot of reading up on the subject over the last couple of days very interesting and very expensive.
Not for me I will stick to my current set up but thanks for the feed back.

[spud]

exspensive i think not

the dies are better and cheaper for a three die set( seater, neck and body die) than a set of redding type s dies and nearly £70 cheaper than a comp set


yes you have to buy an arbor press what ever flavout one you like but die for die they are cheaper than good quality redding

[spud]

exspensive i think not

the dies are better and cheaper for a three die set( seater, neck and body die) than a set of redding type s dies and nearly £70 cheaper than a comp set


yes you have to buy an arbor press what ever flavout one you like but die for die they are cheaper than good quality redding

in fact for an average run of the mill price of the dies id say £135 would cover all three , some customs calibre will be a bit more though

[Alpha1]

Yes but I don't use the redding type of bushing dies or any other type of bushing dies.

99% of my rifles are milsurps I don't own a bushing die of any type.

My dies are RCBS or Lyman. I have one redding .303 neck sizing die and a couple of sets of Lee kneck sizing dies in different calibers.

If I was in to F class or Bench rest it might be a different story but I could not afford to shoot either of those disciplines.

I own a Steyr SSG P1 and one other similar rifle so I don't think its worth my while shelling out for Wilson or any other bushing dies and a arbor press.

All though they are interesting bits of kit and I may be tempted some time in the future. But my re loads are accurate enough for my needs at the moment.

But thanks for the feed back any way.