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Re: SCOTLAND - "First step" now on the cards to UK BAN
Posted: Tue Dec 18, 2012 5:26 pm
by Polchraine
Burner wrote:Registering toys.
How you can put up with a government so daft is beyond any reason I can think of.
Next thing you know you will be registering spoons because they may cause you to over eat, get fat, develope high blood presure, and over burdern the health care system.
They will soon be requiring the sale of Mars Bars to only be permitted in licensed premises ... just so they can control and TAX the number of deep fried ones that are sold.
Re: SCOTLAND - "First step" now on the cards to UK BAN
Posted: Sun Dec 23, 2012 8:04 am
by bangers
they have got to pay for the free Prescriptions and uni some how?
there must be a fair few air rifles over the border and to issue an fac for all of um
would take years its bad enough now, if they have to know who has what???
why dont you just have to notify them via e-mail what you have and when you sell um
it would get loads of people off the dole to input all that data and keep it up to date
a system is as only good as whats put into it, and i know mistakes WILL be made but it would give
all thoses uni grads with honors a foot into work
Re: SCOTLAND - "First step" now on the cards to UK BAN
Posted: Wed Jun 26, 2013 11:34 am
by Sandgroper
Update
It seems the SNP messed up regarding the consultation - from BASC
http://www.basc.org.uk/en/media/key_iss ... CD44780137
The independent watchdog, the Regulatory Review Group in Scotland, has found that the Scottish Government’s airgun licensing consultation took place without a business and regulatory impact assessment. The group investigated the consultation at BASC’s request. BASC has written to policy officials in charge of the consultation at Police Division and to the Cabinet Secretary for Justice asking what they plan to do to remedy this deficiency.
Costly mistakes have already been made as a result of a discredited Scottish licensing scheme for knife sales. The Scottish Government can learn from those mistakes by scrapping airgun licensing proposals in the face of significant opposition and no impact assessment.
Re: SCOTLAND - "First step" now on the cards to UK BAN
Posted: Wed Jun 26, 2013 11:41 am
by saddler
I was told by my FEO that Airgun Licencing WILL be passed & on the books prior to the big vote next August, regardless of any objections...
Re: SCOTLAND - "First step" now on the cards to UK BAN
Posted: Wed Jun 26, 2013 11:47 am
by Sandgroper
saddler wrote:I was told by my FEO that Airgun Licencing WILL be passed & on the books prior to the big vote next August, regardless of any objections...
SNP and power - a marriage made in hell.
Re: SCOTLAND - "First step" now on the cards to UK BAN
Posted: Wed Jun 26, 2013 11:53 am
by bigfathairybiker
saddler wrote:I was told by my FEO that Airgun Licencing WILL be passed & on the books prior to the big vote next August, regardless of any objections...
That is unusual as the bloke who serves at our local chip shop said it wouldnt.
Mark
Re: SCOTLAND - "First step" now on the cards to UK BAN
Posted: Wed Jun 26, 2013 12:54 pm
by saddler
bigfathairybiker wrote:saddler wrote:I was told by my FEO that Airgun Licencing WILL be passed & on the books prior to the big vote next August, regardless of any objections...
That is unusual as the bloke who serves at our local chip shop said it wouldnt.
Mark
...and the Surrey based batterer of cod is connected to the Scottish Police/Scottish Government HOW exactly?
Re: SCOTLAND - "First step" now on the cards to UK BAN
Posted: Wed Jun 26, 2013 1:10 pm
by Chuck
They would be better off licensing football and the retards that follow it, especially the green and blue brigade.
Scottish Numpty Party, a waste of god breathing air. There are more folks injured with an Irn Bru bottle or a beer glass on a Friday than with any airgun, w'nkers the lot of them.
Re: SCOTLAND - "First step" now on the cards to UK BAN
Posted: Wed Jun 26, 2013 9:52 pm
by bigfathairybiker
saddler wrote:bigfathairybiker wrote:saddler wrote:I was told by my FEO that Airgun Licencing WILL be passed & on the books prior to the big vote next August, regardless of any objections...
That is unusual as the bloke who serves at our local chip shop said it wouldnt.
Mark
...and the Surrey based batterer of cod is connected to the Scottish Police/Scottish Government HOW exactly?
My point is that be it a fish and chip shop man or a police man or even an RFD, they don't and cannot know the outcome of a government vote before it happens. The FEO was very likely just voicing HIS own unsubstantiated opinion.
If this country has got to the point where a single policeman is making government policy then it is a very sad world we are living in. tesnews
Mark
Re: SCOTLAND - "First step" now on the cards to UK BAN
Posted: Thu Jun 27, 2013 8:50 am
by Sandgroper
bigfathairybiker wrote:
My point is that be it a fish and chip shop man or a police man or even an RFD, they don't and cannot know the outcome of a government vote before it happens. The FEO was very likely just voicing HIS own unsubstantiated opinion.
If this country has got to the point where a single policeman is making government policy then it is a very sad world we are living in. tesnews
Mark
There will be no vote on this and even if there was, the SNP has such a majority that it would pass easily.
http://www.heraldscotland.com/news/home ... d.19678140
Justice Secretary Kenny MacAskill said: "We have a long-standing commitment to crack down on the misuse of guns, and a licensing scheme for airguns will help address the problems these weapons can cause to individuals and communities in the wrong hands.
"We are not banning air weapons outright, but there has to be a legitimate use for them. We do not believe there should be half a million unlicensed firearms in 21st-century Scotland.
"We are not consulting on the principle of licensing; this will happen. While our primary concern is for public safety, we do not wish to penalise those who use air weapons responsibly and who can demonstrate a legitimate use for a gun such as sport shooting or pest control.
"Our plans to introduce a licensing regime for air weapons represent an important first step towards devolving all powers on firearms to the Scottish Parliament, something I will continue to lobby the UK Government for."
While BASC and others are saying we can stop this from happening, in reality I don't think we can - not that I'm giving up. The best we can hope for is that proves to be too costly and unworkable in it's current format and it goes back for redesign. By delaying and putting as many technical hurdles in the way, we buy enough time that the referendum and the following election causes it to be put on the back burner.