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Sim G wrote:

saddler wrote: We even issued Japanese Arisaka rifles to some troops due to not enough .303's to go around...

Really? Every day's a school day...

Have you got a crayon up that nostril AGAIN?...and stop eating the Plasticine!!

saddler wrote:Google is your friend, as long as you know how to spot what rifle is what from the muzzle layout, etc.
P14 - VERY widespread - but as soon as the war was over they were mothballed (aside from the "T" models with scopes, as they carried on through early WW2 - or through as far as Korea in sniper Aussie usage)

What a shame about mothballing. Any thoughts on whether we'll get any canadian ranger enfields at all?

dromia wrote:

Sim G wrote:
Really? Every day's a school day...

More like a Borstal day.

You're thinking of chair stackers class not borstal.

saddler wrote:

Sixshot6 wrote:...am I right to say they were in the wrong showing off a long lee alongside a smle?

NO - they were correct. Still very much in use in WW1.

Shortages of .303 rifles meant they used anything that they could get.
We even issued Japanese Arisaka rifles to some troops due to not enough .303's to go around...

A lot of commonwealth troops were still using the Long Lee during WW1, East African Rifles etc....

Strangely Brown wrote:

saddler wrote:

Sixshot6 wrote:...am I right to say they were in the wrong showing off a long lee alongside a smle?

NO - they were correct. Still very much in use in WW1.

Shortages of .303 rifles meant they used anything that they could get.
We even issued Japanese Arisaka rifles to some troops due to not enough .303's to go around...

A lot of commonwealth troops were still using the Long Lee during WW1, East African Rifles etc....

Good point, never thought of that. Why Dromia thinks this a borstal day I'll never know.

Wasn't the P14 the rifle used in Dads Army?

DaveFirearmsUK wrote:Wasn't the P14 the rifle used in Dads Army?

And some P17's if the red banded rifles are to go by, I recall P17's having the red band on when given to the homeguard to stop the as expected results when loading 303 in to a 30.06 chamber. I tend to think most organisations regard it as a bit more than a set back when someone loses there hand or gets killed by an exploding rifle. They were just equipped with what they could get. Funnily enough the early dad's army episodes are meant to almost be a black comedy with the image of those old farts, the young and people who couldn't even manage to get to the front as last line of defense (though many of the oldies being WW1 vets kinda averts it a degree). Actually a very brave program to make with WW2 still fresh in people's minds.

DaveFirearmsUK wrote:Wasn't the P14 the rifle used in Dads Army?

As already stated...that & the US M1917 version (the latter a bargain for the Yanks as we'd paid for all the tooling)
Dad's Army (the TV & radio show) also saw famous use of the M1928 Thompson (which in real life were issued to the Home Guard BEFORE the regular army got theirs) as well as the Lewis gun (last live one of which I saw was found by London Fire Brigade after a garage fire. It was chambered in 7.62x54R!!)

The real Home Guard also had Ross rifles & all sorts of other oddities.

saddler wrote:

DaveFirearmsUK wrote:Wasn't the P14 the rifle used in Dads Army?

As already stated...that & the US M1917 version (the latter a bargain for the Yanks as we'd paid for all the tooling)
Dad's Army (the TV & radio show) also saw famous use of the M1928 Thompson (which in real life were issued to the Home Guard BEFORE the regular army got theirs) as well as the Lewis gun (last live one of which I saw was found by London Fire Brigade after a garage fire. It was chambered in 7.62x54R!!)

The real Home Guard also had Ross rifles & all sorts of other oddities.

Saw one once being used at my club, great range, stalking, etc rifle. But in a battlefield..... probably more deadly to the user than anything else. And chambered in 7.62x54, thats a keeper saddler.

I notice that only weeks after making some rather insulting and unfounded comments about shooters of modern sporting rifles, Mr Yardley literally sprang to the defence of trophy hunters like a Thomson Gazelle after Jeremy Vine made some rather inflammatory comments when Mr Yardley's chosen shooting activities were brought under the spotlight today after the killing of Cecil the Lion.

He's currently receiving accolades from his sycophants on his FB page after standing up in defence of his sport when it came under criticism. Very noble of him.

Funny how things work out when you decide to launch unfounded criticism of others, and a couple of weeks later find yourself on the receiving end of sweeping generalisations, criticism and buzzwords such as "sniper", "canned hunt" and other nasty buzzwords.