Rebarreling, expensive....?

[Gun Pimp]

Jenks,

The 6.5x55 Swede is an outstanding cartridge right out to 1000 yds. To think it was designed over a century ago............

Is the 6.5 Creedmore (or 6.5x47 Lapua or 260 Rem.) any better? Ballistically - no, but these new 6.5s do have the 308 case-head and will load into a 308 magazine - if that's important.

Cheers
Vince

[Scotsgun]

Just spent an enjoyable day stalking with a guy using the 6.5x47. Now i'm not about to ditch any of my guns as i'm a bit of a traditionalist, mainly stalking with a 25-06, 270 or my 308....but that new rifle of his is nice. A real pussycat to shoot and certainly effective at approx 300yds (judging by the buck he dropped).

He took a sako 75 action with a shot out barrel to Borders, got it trued, new stainless barrel fluted and bead blasted. Screw cut for moderator and returned quickly. It cost him £720. Now even if he'd have bought the donor action, that's one hell of a rifle for say a grand!

Incidentally, i agree with Gun Pimp; the 6.5 swede is a fantastic round.

[Jenks]

Jenks,

The 6.5x55 Swede is an outstanding cartridge right out to 1000 yds. To think it was designed over a century ago............

Is the 6.5 Creedmore (or 6.5x47 Lapua or 260 Rem.) any better? Ballistically - no, but these new 6.5s do have the 308 case-head and will load into a 308 magazine - if that's important.

Cheers
Vince

Vince/ Scotsgun.

I am a huge fan of the 6.5mm bullet. I have a 6.5x55se barrel for my Blasers. A cartridge loaded with 139grn Scenar bullet driven by 48grains of reloader 22 performs well out to 1200 yards.

I have been reading about the creedmor cartridge, and it does sound good, but then they always do, don't they. 6.5.5x284... 6.5x47.. 6.5 Grendel there are any number of cartridges with the fantastic 6.5mm bullet up front. I wonder if Hornady tried necking down a 308win case before producing the creedmor. Then again I don't suppose a 6.5x08 would have the same marketing potential as a brand new cartridge

Sadly I won't be here in another 100 years time to see if any of these wonder cartridges are still in common usage. But I'd wager that the venerable Swede will still be popular.


Jenks

[Jenks]

Is the 6.5 Creedmore (or 6.5x47 Lapua or 260 Rem.) any better? Ballistically - no, but these new 6.5s do have the 308 case-head and will load into a 308 magazine - if that's important.

Looking at case-head diameters I notice that the Creedmor at .468'' is .012'' narrower than the 6.5x55se the 308win measures .473'' making it .007'' narrower than the Swede.

The magazine of my rifle will accommodate both calibres as will the standard bolt- head







I'm pretty sure that the creedmore would fit and feed from the magazine and would probably be ok with the standard Bolt-head then again would .012'' narrower be just a tad to narrow?


Jenks

[Sim G]

I wonder if Hornady tried necking down a 308win case before producing the creedmor. Then again I don't suppose a 6.5x08 would have the same marketing potential as a brand new cartridge

Remington did it 15 years ago, hence the .260 Rem.

Perceived advantages of the Creedmoor? No doubt a better mousetrap. However, Some of the perceived advantages are; Short action as opposed to the Swede long. Short action equals stiffer action; better accuracy/consistancy due to less flexing. Shorter rearward bolt movement, so slightly faster cycling and as most people have to lift their heads from the stock to cycle a long action, they don't have to with a short action, maintaining position and sight picture.

Fits into a .308 magazine and has a .308 bolt head. Simple conversion of rifles with nothing more than a barrel swap to change caliber. 120gn bullets give similar trajectory to .300 Win Mag, but the case design allows for the loading of long 140gn bullets that don't have to be inserted into the case below the neck/shoulder line, into the powder tower, again believed to offer better accuracy and still maintain the magazine length with the heavier bullets.

Not of great concern in the UK, but heavy bullets can be loaded for semis, such as AR10.

Like I said, could just be a better mousetrap. However, it's new as so stimulates further interest and the subsequent marketing, production, sales etc, that a shrinking industry also needs. As capable as a 6.5 Swede Mauser is, how bring would it have been for gun enthusiasts over the last 100 years?