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Re: 55-62-69
Posted: Sat Sep 27, 2014 1:45 am
by SevenSixTwo
Thanks, makes sense.
What should my expectations be then if I stick with the 62gr? With a 'lighter' charge, will performance be significantly worse?
Would I get better results with a lighter 55 or heavier 69? Yeah, I know - 'results' is a bit vague... :lol:
Re: 55-62-69
Posted: Sat Sep 27, 2014 4:36 am
by John MH
55 Grain bullets aren't used in SS109 and where are you going to get WC844?
Re: 55-62-69
Posted: Sat Sep 27, 2014 6:01 am
by Blu
Quite a few folks over here replicate the military round or try to. Below is a photo with both WC844 and H335 as you can see they are pretty much as close as you can get, in the absence of WC844 they use the H335. They also use the US Army load data from the Army tech spec sheet.
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Re: 55-62-69
Posted: Sat Sep 27, 2014 5:13 pm
by Sim G
I've been using H335 for years, a great powder for .223 and regarded as a "classic".
Hodgdon says,
Originated as a military powder, used for the 5.56 NATO, or 223 Remington as handloaders know it.
Re: 55-62-69
Posted: Sat Sep 27, 2014 6:45 pm
by SevenSixTwo
Is that also good for 7.62 NATO?
I'm betting it won't be! :lol:

Re: 55-62-69
Posted: Sat Sep 27, 2014 7:40 pm
by Sandgroper
SevenSixTwo wrote:Is that also good for 7.62 NATO?
I'm betting it won't be! :lol:

Well, if it's good enough for 308 Win, I'm guessing it'll be good enough for 7.62 NATO...
Re: 55-62-69
Posted: Sat Sep 27, 2014 10:01 pm
by Blu
SevenSixTwo wrote:Is that also good for 7.62 NATO?
I'm betting it won't be! :lol:

:roll:
Army Reloading.pdf
Re: 55-62-69
Posted: Sat Sep 27, 2014 11:43 pm
by SevenSixTwo
So, I'm GTG for the 62gr. Thanks all.
Re: 55-62-69
Posted: Sun Sep 28, 2014 6:55 am
by John MH
If you are going to go to the bother of reloading why spend the time using a ballistically inferior and frankly lower quality bullet? NATO 'spec' reloads may well produce NATO 'spec' accuracy which would seem to make the exercise pointless. Very good quality 69 grain target bullets can be had for reasonable cost and should shoot groups at least half the size of that achievable with a 62 grain FMJ surplus bullet.
Re: 55-62-69
Posted: Sun Sep 28, 2014 10:44 am
by SevenSixTwo
John MH wrote:If you are going to go to the bother of reloading why spend the time using a ballistically inferior and frankly lower quality bullet? NATO 'spec' reloads may well produce NATO 'spec' accuracy which would seem to make the exercise pointless. Very good quality 69 grain target bullets can be had for reasonable cost and should shoot groups at least half the size of that achievable with a 62 grain FMJ surplus bullet.
That's what I was originally asking; 55-62-69? I'll be reloading from GGG/PPU (and nothing else) and my question was 'which weight' would be better in the absense of 62gr.