More possible restrictions??

[the running man]

ummmmmmmmmmm cant see it myself!!

[Sandgroper]

From BASC http://www.basc.org.uk/en/media/pressre ... E9207A4BC8

“BASC firmly rejects the recommendation to apply the current complicated section one firearms licensing system onto shotguns and to increase licence fees to cover costs without firm and reliable evidence of what those costs actually are. BASC will continue to work with the Government and the police on the issues raised by the report. “

And From BASC's initial response
http://www.basc.org.uk/en/utilities/doc ... C7E8408C8A
Recommendations
The Firearms Acts 1968 – 1997 should be consolidated into a single Act.
No wholesale review of firearms law should take place in the current emotionally charged climate.
Any new firearms legislation should be divided into two acts; criminal justice matter and licensing administration.
Appeals against police licensing decisions should be dealt with by a tribunal.
Airgun control laws should not be devolved to Scotland.
The current regime for licensing shotguns should be extended to Section 1 firearms.

3.6) BASC asserts that the current licensing system for shotguns is the greatest
strength of the Firearms Acts because it licenses a person to own a class of
firearm. Firearms licensing should always concentrate on the suitability of the
applicant rather than being a mechanistic process for recording the details of
individual firearms, their mechanisms and uses.

3.8) The current licensing system for shotguns is both proportionate and
effective because it concentrates on the suitability of the applicant. The police
can refuse an application if they think the applicant does not have a good
reason for possessing a shotgun or is likely to be a danger to the public safety
or to the peace. The certificate holder must secure his shotguns and advise the
police of any acquisitions or disposals. These are effective checks and
balances.
3.9) BASC strongly recommends that the current regime for shotguns should
be applied to sporting rifles and muzzle-loading firearms. This would
streamline the licensing process without impairing upon public safety.

I'm not saying BASC will be successful, but at least it's something they're fighting for.

[Blackstuff]

It will not be a good day if shotguns get moved to Section 1 restrictions = the death of the last whiff of us having a 'right' to a firearm - i.e. the Chief Constable has to prove why you can't have an SGC, rather than you proving why you can (S1)

I also wonder if shotgun ammunition would be made S1 Good news for people that sell safes though :roll:

To be honest i would be barely affected by the proposals, even in their worst form as i only have one S2 shotgun which i have S1 type 'good reasons' to hold i.e. member of a clay club and have a land permission to use it, however i don't suffer from the I'm-all-right-Jackism that was rife during the pistol and SLR bans :evil:

Any restriction on any part of the shooting community is a further nail in the coffin for all of us and i will be doing my part to resist it

[ovenpaa]

The changes could also be something as simple as the rationalisation of the licensing sections which we are already seeing in some areas, along with a common licence or certificate for both S1 and S2.

For me the worrying part is not what they will do but the fact that the have left it for an extended period. Cumbria is now behind us and forgotten by the vast majority, many shooters breathed a sigh of relief and forgot all about it 11 months ago when it was first announced there would not be a knee jerk reaction. A 12 month wait cannot be construed as a knee jerk but can still have the same negative impact on all UK shooters.

[Chuck]

Nick Griffin in No.10...

Not as big a joke as those already in though Rob.

Which gun rag was proclaiming "labour loves guns" a while back,. what a crock of sh1t that was.

the fact our PM shooits a shotgun matters not a jot, it is all about VOTES and politicians will do whatever to get votes. CVAmeron and all political ilk will have their fun irrespective of what happens to us more law abiding mortals.

I posted about the move to put shotguns on FAC's a while back, seems that has already been mentioned here but it would be a way of screrwing over the law abiding AGAIN just to keep the deranged anti's and the vote hunters happy..YOUR vote as a shooter is NOT important..in fact no one's vote is important, it just lets you think you are.

[Sim G]

..in fact no one's vote is important, it just lets you think you are.

Of course they are important, where on earth did you get that from? Even as recent as the last election, how many seats did Labour hold onto by the skin of their teeth, with a couple of hundred votes. Remember Laura Moffat? A Labour MP with a majority of just 37. She lost. And even a "popular" Labour figure such as Glenda Jackson was re-elected with a majority of 42! Trust me, votes are important. It's the public lethargy that damages democracy.

Churchill said that democracy isn't perfect, but it's the best we've got compared to the next alternative.

[Sandgroper]

..in fact no one's vote is important, it just lets you think you are.

Of course they are important, where on earth did you get that from? Even as recent as the last election, how many seats did Labour hold onto by the skin of their teeth, with a couple of hundred votes. Remember Laura Moffat? A Labour MP with a majority of just 37. She lost. And even a "popular" Labour figure such as Glenda Jackson was re-elected with a majority of 42! Trust me, votes are important. It's the public lethargy that damages democracy.

Churchill said that democracy isn't perfect, but it's the best we've got compared to the next alternative.

The only wasted vote, is the vote that isn't cast.

[Chuck]

was it not Gordon Brown who said that what people thopught did not matter........................he was speaking in response to a fair amount of public opinion on the web petition site.

Once elected they do what they want, that is our system..if opinion REALLY mattered we would be consulted on a whole lot more than we are. Your opinion only counts until they are elected, looking for re-election or in danger of losing an election.

Only wasted vote is one not cast...or emanating from the Welsh valleys????

[Porcupine]

Time to stock up on rust-preventative grease, PVC pipe, PVC solvent, aluminized mylar bags, and desiccant, and find some lonely spots in the woods.

[Sim G]

Do the Old Bill not have every caliber, make and serial number of every gun you own? Except for any S58....

Not good advice.