Ash vs the Evil dead boomstick

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Re: Ash vs the Evil dead boomstick

#11 Post by Chapuis »

bradaz11 wrote:you aren't allowed to cut s2 barrels and make s1 are you?

and you aren't allowed to shorten s2 barrels significantly unless damaged

sure i saw that somewhere??

yes, coach guns are S1, so you would have to have a 'need' but I do CAS :P
I believe that you are correct bradz. A similar question arose on another forum about shortening the barrels on a .410 to make a gun suitable for humane despatch. Apparently there is only one legitimate reason in law for a gunsmith to shorten shotgun barrels and reduce them below 24" and that is in order to sleeve a gun.
The gun has to be originally made as a short barreled shotgun.
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#12 Post by breacher »

Kungfugerbil wrote:Isn't the problem that 'coach guns' are section 1 and only granted to those who do cowboy action shooting and so forth? I recall seeing a review of the Pedersoli coach gun which was well liked, less than a grand but hard to find an actual, practical use for...
I got mine for target, clays and vermin.
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Re: Ash vs the Evil dead boomstick

#13 Post by breacher »

Chapuis wrote:
bradaz11 wrote:you aren't allowed to cut s2 barrels and make s1 are you?

and you aren't allowed to shorten s2 barrels significantly unless damaged

sure i saw that somewhere??

yes, coach guns are S1, so you would have to have a 'need' but I do CAS :P
I believe that you are correct bradz. A similar question arose on another forum about shortening the barrels on a .410 to make a gun suitable for humane despatch. Apparently there is only one legitimate reason in law for a gunsmith to shorten shotgun barrels and reduce them below 24" and that is in order to sleeve a gun.
The gun has to be originally made as a short barreled shotgun.
Interesting - I often wondered, what would happen if you had a lever action or falling block etc 12 bore shotgun at 28" and the last 10" was severely damaged ie crushed or bent - would the removal of the damaged part be considered a "repair" to render the shotgun useable ( albeit now sect 1 ) again ?
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Re: Ash vs the Evil dead boomstick

#14 Post by BamBam »

I've seen a SxS shortened by a local RFD, barrels were less than 20".
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Re: Ash vs the Evil dead boomstick

#15 Post by Chapuis »

BamBam wrote:I've seen a SxS shortened by a local RFD, barrels were less than 20".
Then I would say that from what I have read on the subject that would have been illegal.
There is a very knowledgeable chap on the stalking directory website who goes under the name of Uncle Norm. Uncle Norm was a firearms licensing manager with I believe Cambridgeshire constabulary and is still an avid shooter himself. He explained only a short time ago why such an action was illegal. Maybe illogical but still illegal.
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#16 Post by Sixshot6 »

breacher wrote:
Chapuis wrote:
bradaz11 wrote:you aren't allowed to cut s2 barrels and make s1 are you?

and you aren't allowed to shorten s2 barrels significantly unless damaged

sure i saw that somewhere??

yes, coach guns are S1, so you would have to have a 'need' but I do CAS :P
I believe that you are correct bradz. A similar question arose on another forum about shortening the barrels on a .410 to make a gun suitable for humane despatch. Apparently there is only one legitimate reason in law for a gunsmith to shorten shotgun barrels and reduce them below 24" and that is in order to sleeve a gun.
The gun has to be originally made as a short barreled shotgun.
Interesting - I often wondered, what would happen if you had a lever action or falling block etc 12 bore shotgun at 28" and the last 10" was severely damaged ie crushed or bent - would the removal of the damaged part be considered a "repair" to render the shotgun useable ( albeit now sect 1 ) again ?
Lever's and any other action that is not a pump or semi on section one is subject to the same 12/24 rules as other firearms. It's why the 1887 repro's have 22 inch barrels. Also I've noticed that Addler the maker of the A110 lever action is looking for a uk distributor to get it out and it look's better than the 1887's for operation. Also repeating shotguns seem to be able to go between the two cert's does that mean the section 2 status for any repeater is effectively acknowledged as temporary?
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