is it legal

[reiver xxv]

A cautionary tale, a friend of mines was being visited by his FEO to check his security and weapon serial numbers for his renewal. My friend had some rounds for a rifle he no longer owns. He thought he would surrender them to the FEO. Now bearing in mind that the FEO hadn't seen the rounds, it was my friend being totally honest. The result is he has had his firearms confiscated and is under investigation.

[safetyfirst]

Seconded. I've know someone who got into bother picking up some cheap .308 before he bought his rifle....

[bigfathairybiker]

How can you get into trouble for buying ammunition for which you have a permission on your FAC?
I've been buying .38spl to use on a club gun because I haven't purchased a rifle yet.

Mark

[safetyfirst]

Because with no gun to shoot it with you have no use for it.

Seriously.
Sigh.

As usual, it's all open to interpretation.

[bigfathairybiker]

Even for the club gun?

Also, no where on my FAC does it state the the permission to purchase .38spl ammo requires ownership of a rifle capable of firing it.

Also, if I buy a rifle before buying ammo.... I have no use for the rifle therefore I am breaking the law!!???

I also note that it is always "a friend" that got into trouble. Which I always take to mean "not the whole story".

Mark

[Mr_Logic]

Frankly folks, someone please show me where in Statute it says I can't legally hold ammunition which is on my ticket, if I sell the rifle it's for.

Otherwise, I cry BS! Because, I have complied with the terms of my FAC, ammunition purchased in accordance with the law and stored properly. What offence have I committed?

As for selling ammunition, yes of course you can. What you can't do is buy and sell all the time for profit, but if you have ammo lurking about (like, you know, if you sell a rifle...) then you can transfer that. You have to enter it into the other person's FAC as normal.

One note - if you sell reloads, no offence from an FAC PoV, but the ammunition isn't a proofed load so there is the issue.

[safetyfirst]

Hey hey hey. Calm down there. I'm just relating something I know to have happened, which as you can see from my tone and language I find ridiculous and suspect isn't a legal statute.

My mate purchased bunch of 308 and then didn't get his rifle for a few months. In the meantime, whilst bragging about the price he paid for the old 308, he was warned by an RFD that he shouldn't be holding ammunition he doesn't have a rifle for.

He then got taken aside by someone at his club and was warned he needed to take the ammo back.

I'm sure it's not written somewhere in law but to have two people warn him?

I checked with my local RFD before writing this and he also said its an offence to be in possession of ammunition for which you have no suitable firearm.

If this is a serious bone of contention, go ask your licensing departments, see what they say.

Why don't we collect their replies?

Let's not start yelling BS, let's just try and find out what the facts are?

[Mr_Logic]

I prefixed my cry of BS with a note that please direct me to statute.

I stand by that, and I'm not yelling, just putting it plainly. I don't care what licensing departments or RFDs say - unless it's actually law, it does not count.

[Swamp Donkey]

Your firearm certificate allows you to acquire and hold ammunition listed.


Where's the issue ?


Your cert shows legal authority to hold said ammo, it doesn't say 'acquire if you have a suitable gun to use it in' does it ?

[snayperskaya]

Your firearm certificate allows you to acquire and hold ammunition listed.


Where's the issue ?


Your cert shows legal authority to hold said ammo, it doesn't say 'acquire if you have a suitable gun to use it in' does it ?

That's what I thought