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Dromia....I think that is the other way around. The Fultons mount has been around since I were a lad....well almost...certainly 30+ years....friend had one on his .303" No4 and installed a No32 scope on it, made it look a little like a proper "T"....

Well Armalon have been going that long and according to their website

"Armalon Enfield No.4 scope mount

Peter Sarony designed Armalon's Enfield No.4 optical sight mount bracket to provide a long, robust yet lightweight platform with a forward 20 moa declination, to accept Weaver type rings or accessories, all without the necessity for any gunsmithing or alteration to the rifle. These mount brackets are CNC machined from a solid billet of the highest strength 7075 aluminium alloy ( as used for M16 receivers) and normally have a durable black anodised finish. Steel fixings and the locking block are chemically blacked.

A modified version is available to order, for a small extra charge, for use on Enfields where No. 32 scope pads have been fitted.

Otherwise these brackets fit No.4 Mk I, Mk I*, Mk II, L39, L42 and and other derivatives of Enfield No.4 actions, such as Armalon's 'PC', AL42 and AL 30C rifles.

The price quoted does not include UK Special Delivery postage - please add £5.50 for this. All other destinations
please enquire.
Product Type: Accessory
List Price £84.50"

I'll let them and Fultons fight over any copyright issues though.

In any case it is a fine and light mount and I'm happy to recommend it as they have given me years of excellent service.

Robin128 wrote:

Jenks wrote:The Armalon mount appears very similar to Fultons mount, though I believe Fultons is made of steel whilst the Armalon is made in aluminium.


Armalon mount..



Jenks

Jenks...there is no support for the front of that rail...

Robin..
Correct. The mount is secured by at the rear by utilising the holes for the pin that secures the ladder rear sight the front is secured to the charger bridge by a hefty screw into a shaped block of steel. I think, and it is only a personal opinion, bearing in mind that I have never seen an Armalon mount in the flesh so to speak, that in the pictures the Fulton mount looks thicker and is made of steel. Having personal experience of the Fultons mount and none of the Armalon mount I would have to recommend the Fultons mount. Dromia has no hesitation in doing the same for the Armalon so 'you takes you pick' the really important thing is that the host rifle is in not altered in anyway by fitting either mount, and can be returned to its original form in minutes.

Jenks

If Dromia says its ok...then its ok.

:)

As they seem to both be the same rails with strong track records and recommendations I'd let the price make the decision and buy the cheaper.

I had one of these mounts on my Enfield style enforcer. The hefty screw in the block kept loosening which required the scope to come off to fix and then the rifle to be re zeroed.

As mentioned before this was just one of a number of things that just did not work for me with this gun and perhaps if everything else was working I would have spent more time trying to fix it.

Not saying for one moment not to get one, just beware that that screw needs something like loctite on the threads to stop the frustration.

The mount did not have a name on it so can not say who made it,

DM

If i were to mount a scope on an Enfield then i'd buy a quality 2nd hand / demonstrator scope. Ideally i'd go for a fixed power 6x42 and steer clear of the large objectives (8x56, etc).

Yank scopes tend to offer gimicks like balistic drop gauges, etc but the optic quality very rarely comes close to a decent european optic; Swarovski, Zeiss, Schmidt & Bender, etc.

A very good source of 2nd hand optics is Macleods of Tain. A genuine gent to deal with and honest.

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Scotsgun wrote:Yank scopes tend to offer gimicks like balistic drop gauges, etc but the optic quality very rarely comes close to a decent european optic; Swarovski, Zeiss, Schmidt & Bender, etc.

Add to the list Kaps, made in Germany they are little known and very good glass if you can find a used one.

My faves are kahles, but i do acknowledge that they are owned by Swarovski.

Scotsgun wrote:If i were to mount a scope on an Enfield then i'd buy a quality 2nd hand / demonstrator scope. Ideally i'd go for a fixed power 6x42 and steer clear of the large objectives (8x56, etc).

Yank scopes tend to offer gimicks like balistic drop gauges, etc but the optic quality very rarely comes close to a decent european optic; Swarovski, Zeiss, Schmidt & Bender, etc.

A very good source of 2nd hand optics is Macleods of Tain. A genuine gent to deal with and honest.

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I concur.

I'm a big fan of fixed magnification scopes. Good, second hand is a way of getting quality glass at a reasonable price. Personally I have a dozen Pecar scopes that I started collecting a few years ago when their prices were low and they were going out of production. I also rate the Bushnell Banner series of scopes as affordable new glass for stalking, not Pecar or Zeiss quality but for me the best value new low price scopes on the market. I also like the old low power steel tube Weavers and have one on my Slazenger .22 Hornet. The current crop of modern scopes are way over the top with more knobs and buttons that NASA and reticule clutter more akin to dazzle camouflage.

My best stalking scope is an old Ajack 4x mounted on my .303" and it can give at least an extra 20 minutes at dawn and dusk. Quality glass pays and second hand quality glass is better value, as are rifles.

Gregor is always worth a blether with and if you can't get up to Tain then a trawl through his lists and a phone call is well worthwhile.