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Re: .223 mag inserts

Posted: Sat Feb 16, 2013 10:47 pm
by John MH
Probably not. Try Ebay migh get lucky.

Re: .223 mag inserts

Posted: Sat Feb 16, 2013 10:56 pm
by HALODIN
OK... Do you really think the position of the bullet at the top of the magazine (see pic above) would make that much of a difference?

Re: .223 mag inserts

Posted: Sat Feb 16, 2013 11:11 pm
by John MH
Don't know, why don't you try it.

Re: .223 mag inserts

Posted: Sat Feb 16, 2013 11:33 pm
by HALODIN
OK will do. Thanks!

Re: .223 mag inserts

Posted: Sun Feb 17, 2013 1:13 am
by HALODIN
Just for the record, this is the Ciener .22 conversion kit.

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Re: .223 mag inserts

Posted: Sun Feb 17, 2013 1:18 am
by HALODIN
Pics below: Left to right: BDM, Ciener, 261, Air Force, Colt, DPMS, CZ-22

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Re: .223 mag inserts

Posted: Sun Feb 17, 2013 8:06 am
by John MH
Well as you can see the mags for the Ciener (type used in Spikes) present the round much higher than the M261, the Ciener bolt will skip straight over the M261 mag insert and not chamber a round.

Re: .223 mag inserts

Posted: Sun Feb 17, 2013 11:04 am
by HALODIN
Are you sure the BDM and Ciener mags don't sit lower in the mag well than the m261 mag insert?

Why is it that all .22 mags look like a plastic nightmare? Is it some unspoken agreement between manufacturers?
John MH wrote:Well as you can see the mags for the Ciener (type used in Spikes) present the round much higher than the M261, the Ciener bolt will skip straight over the M261 mag insert and not chamber a round.

Re: .223 mag inserts

Posted: Sun Feb 17, 2013 11:10 am
by saddler
HALODIN wrote:Are you sure the BDM and Ciener mags don't sit lower in the mag well than the m261 mag insert?

Why is it that all .22 mags look like a plastic nightmare? Is it some unspoken agreement between manufacturers?
John MH wrote:Well as you can see the mags for the Ciener (type used in Spikes) present the round much higher than the M261, the Ciener bolt will skip straight over the M261 mag insert and not chamber a round.
ALL??

Plastic?

...says who?

My SGC has the 25-rd mags.
Solid steel - possibly of enough mass to break toes if they get in the way & you happen to eject a mag without catching it

The different .22 conversion kits & dedicated uppers ALL use a mag design/feed angle unique to each design - as I am in the opposite quandry of not being able to find BDM V-22 magazines in the UK - just the M261 type and the others that they offer...

Re: .223 mag inserts

Posted: Sun Feb 17, 2013 11:30 am
by HALODIN
"...says who?" --> Says me based on everything I can find... Just to confirm then, your SGC 25 round steel mags are they .22 mags or do they have the .22 insert? Any chance of a couple of pics?

EDIT: Is it one of these?

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or this one?

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saddler wrote:
ALL??

Plastic?

...says who?

My SGC has the 25-rd mags.
Solid steel - possibly of enough mass to break toes if they get in the way & you happen to eject a mag without catching it

The different .22 conversion kits & dedicated uppers ALL use a mag design/feed angle unique to each design - as I am in the opposite quandry of not being able to find BDM V-22 magazines in the UK - just the M261 type and the others that they offer...