Useful Document

[John25]

Late night surfing, found this.

[TattooedGun]

The most important bit of that document to me is where it mentioned buying rifle ammunition - I have never bought a .308 round as I reload from the word go, so if they ever ask, I will be able to prove that i shoot regularly, however thier records will indicate that i've had my rifle X number of years without buying a round :/

[phaedra1106]

I also reload all my centrefire rounds, never bought any factory since getting my FAC. What I do is keep reloading records, last time I had a variation I sent copies and got the ammo allowance increased as a result.

[John25]

I not only keep a bucket of spent primers, this year I have started entering them on my certificate. Up 'till then I kept a log, mainly to keep a check on my spending.

[ovenpaa]

You enter them onto your own FAC John? I thought we were not allowed to do that.

We keep detailed logs of the ammunition held in the house, the amount of ammunition we produce and when it is shot. Within the logs are details of the load, primer, bullet and some weather variables such as temperature and humidity. Then details of where and when we shot, how many rounds, distance and again some weather variables. Finally there is a rolling log sheet so at any time we can see exactly what is in the lockers.

[M99]

At my last FEO visit (A coffee he was passing!) we were talking over changes in procedure and he happened to mention that they will be looking in to ammo usage against rifles/pistols held, his advice was - Any you don't shoot that often, have changed to "collect & occasional use" as a valid reason to hold - when pushed on how many rounds you were expected to get through, he didn't have the answer. I have no reason to doubt him, he is a shooter and a sound guy.

Mike

[John25]

You enter them onto your own FAC John? I thought we were not allowed to do that.

We keep detailed logs of the ammunition held in the house, the amount of ammunition we produce and when it is shot. Within the logs are details of the load, primer, bullet and some weather variables such as temperature and humidity. Then details of where and when we shot, how many rounds, distance and again some weather variables. Finally there is a rolling log sheet so at any time we can see exactly what is in the lockers.

I do all that too, but the recently retired FEO said that 'I could just be filling in bits of paper'

When I said that I didn't actually have to shoot either, just pop in to the range office and enter an attendance on the computer if I was going to cheat the system.

He didn't have a proper answer to that, but as I have said, he has retired.

I started putting ammo on the cert mainly because, having a couple of new toys, I didn't want to find myself caught up in a RTA and some zealous PC 'discovering' that I had ammo for which I couldn't account.

There is, as far as I'm aware, no precedent in law for not entering on your own certificate, techically, if I sold you commercial ammo I would have to enter it on your cert. None of us ever do of course but if we were not members of the same club and not dealers (I am not) we may be in breach of the law?

I have also started keeping receipts for any range hire, belt and braces if you like.

[ovenpaa]

We do enter sale/gift od ammunition onto the recipients FAC, Christel gave her last 50 odd rounds of 54R to Steve of this forum and she entered the transaction on his FAC, it kept them both totally above board.

[Porcupine]

If you have a reloading press and parts I'd guess that is proof enough

I thought it was quite an inaccurate article e.g. "The applicant/holder must show police that he has a proper standard gun cabinet fixed at his home where he will generally keep his gun(s) and rifle ammunition."

I'm proof that this is not the case. I got my SGC with a wall clamp, and my FAC with a cabinet that did not conform to any British standards. The law only says guns must be kept reasonably secure and Home Office guidance bears this out, saying that security measures equivalent to cabinets e.g. gun rooms, clamps, cable locks etc should be accepted and that cabinets need not meet British standards so long as they are sufficiently well-built.