Uberti Buntline .45 long colt

[hakeswill]

Hi Mark,

Yes I have one. Came across it by chance and took it as part of a deal on a shotgun that one of the lads wanted. It sat in my cabinet for ages as with the 18" barrel, it really was too unweildy to use "a la pistol"....



However........ I order to try and get it a little more user friendly, I did have the barrel chopped and a rod added! It became completely different to use. If you forget the Frankenstein looks, when you lift it into the aim, you forget about the rod and it is just a little like the "old days"! Mine is in .45 Colt and I'm using bulk cast, generic 250gn LRNFP, with Titegroup powder at the published "cowboy load" of 5.5gns. It gives to to three inch groups at 25m.

Oh, and the chopping of the barrel, with re-crowning and the rod fitting and bluing, was the princely sum of £75....

Hi Simon, thats good, exactly what I am planning on doing. Can I ask where you had the work done?

I was thinking of using Unique powder as it seems to be the most popular choice for SSA revolvers but I was also considering Titegroup, I thought it might be better to use Unique because of the large casing and the extra powder starting at about 8 grains.

[Sim G]

Stocks are around for the Uberti, I'd check out the deact/collectors/cowboy re-enactors sources.

Aye they are, but have you seen the price of them?!!! They want more for a stock than you'd pay for a revolver!!


Oh, and "Slasher" indeed........! I prefer "Chopper"! :lol:

[dromia]

Haven't checked the prices but the last one sold S/H around August last year went for £35 and I made my mark up on it so they are around at a reasonable cost.

How about "Slasher the Chopper Simon"?

[Sim G]

Hi Simon, thats good, exactly what I am planning on doing. Can I ask where you had the work done?

I was thinking of using Unique powder as it seems to be the most popular choice for SSA revolvers but I was also considering Titegroup, I thought it might be better to use Unique because of the large casing and the extra powder starting at about 8 grains.

I just got a local gunsmith to do it. In short, it's not a difficult job...... well, not for anyone calling themselves a gunsmith!!

I tried Unique first, but it didn't work for me in my revolver. Don't worry about the small charges of Titegroup, it's designed so that it's not position sensitive in the case. It's consistant, accurate, doesn't suffer from temperature extremes, but, it is dirty!

[Sim G]

Haven't checked the prices but the last one sold S/H around August last year went for £35 and I made my mark up on it so they are around at a reasonable cost.

How about "Slasher the Chopper Simon"?

When I got my stock several years ago, I paid 80 quid for it new. One of the lads in the club tried it on his and it became his "must have accessory". Eventually, he reckoned the cheapest he could find them eventually, was 125 quid!!! He only gave 120 for his revolver.....

And how about "Lopper" instead?

[dromia]

"Lopper the Chopper" sounds good to moi.

[hakeswill]

Haven't checked the prices but the last one sold S/H around August last year went for £35 and I made my mark up on it so they are around at a reasonable cost.

How about "Slasher the Chopper Simon"?

When I got my stock several years ago, I paid 80 quid for it new. One of the lads in the club tried it on his and it became his "must have accessory". Eventually, he reckoned the cheapest he could find them eventually, was 125 quid!!! He only gave 120 for his revolver.....

And how about "Lopper" instead?

£120 was good for the revolver, im looking at paying £485 new from Kranks, haven't seen any around secondhand.

Do all the uberti buntlines have attatchments for the shoulder stock?

What area of the country are you from Simon? My local gunsmith had concerns about getting the barrel off the revolver, I take it yours came off ok?

[Sim G]

No they don't. The problem with the shoulder stocks was that they were made for the first run of Buntline revolvers about 8 years ago. As you will see from the grip frame of the Buntline it is considerably longer than both the "Navy" frame as used on the Cattleman SAA or on the 1860 Army. Uberti still supposedly make stocks for the Army and Navy frame, but not the Buntline. My stock is for the Navy frame which I use on an 1861 Navy.

Even though the bottom of the frame of mine has a fixing point for the stock, it doesn't have the cut outs in the recoil sheild or the long mech screws on which to anchor the stock. I reckon mine was made during the transition from offering the facility to not offering it. That said, even if mine did have the facility to fit a stock, the stock I have would be too small because of the length of the grip frame.

As mentioned above, there were some Buntlines around in the first run about 8 years ago. They didn't sell. However, some of us did lop them which made them more useable. Kranks look to have decided to bring them in again adding a couple of other calibers as well. This is probably where your issue lies. The only ones available are new. And because of the price of the new ones, then any second hand ones are going to reflect this. The one I have was really dirt cheap. I took it in part ex for a shotgun and the bloke "offered" as such with a value of only 70 quid then!

As for the barrel coming off. Piece of cake. Remove the ejector rod housing and unscrew it......!! Cut the barrel and recrown it. One point though. Before screwing the barrel back into the reciever, either the grip has to be removed or the rod already fitted! The reason is really a legally technical one. If the cut barrel is screwed back in with the "un-rodded" frame, with the grip still in place, the revolver is then Section 5 because of the overall length!!! An, as you know, once S.5, always S.5! Should the new Buntlines still have the anchor point on the bottom of the frame, this is a great spot for the rod to be welded on.

[Sim G]

Just found this after a quick trawl on the BWSS site......... don't know how old the advert is!

"Firearms for sale

.44 mag. Uberti buntine revolver. complete with detachable shoulder stock, target sights and long range sights - £375

Please Contact:

A & A GUNSMITHING.
SERVICE AND REPAIRS,

CONTACT ALAN ON 01754 765046"

[hakeswill]

I am just in the process of having my variation confirmed for .45 colt so a .44 wouldnt be an option, I also got a got deal on some .45 colt brass to get me started reloading. I like the idea of shooting it in the original SAA calibre also.

Thats good the barrel comes of easily, I think the gunsmith was worried that it might have been glued or soldered in or something.

Can you actually buy .45 colt ammo anywhere? It would be nice to be able to try it out before I start reloading.

What is the recoil like on your load of titegroup?