Thanks for the offer, it is always handy to have someone to run idea past, as much as the Viking listens and looks she does struggle with 'seeing' the things I am trying to describe as a concept in her mind.Scotsgun wrote:Got to admit that i have no real experience of shooting with these rests but 10-16kg seems excessive. Putting my engineer's hat on, the excessive weight is to compensate for the restricted distribution through the base.
I viewed a Farley Co-Axial with Edgewood Pad fitted. There doesn't seem to be any complex machining or casting involved. It does seem bomb proof, but does it need to be so? If looking at modifying, i'd bee looking at alternate materials and increasing the distribution of weight .
Are there rules concerning ground anchors?
PM me if you want to chat, rattle up some CAD drawings or test components on the CAM machines.
Bench/F Class front rests.
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Re: Bench/F Class front rests.
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I agree if you can get a car to the firing point then the weight of the equipment should be of little concern, however if you have a 200-300 yard walk up/down hill across a moor or heathland then it becomes difficult and at that point I start to analyse the equipment I carry and the reasoning behind it. I used a trolley this year which was an abject failure on anything other than a smooth surface as it was like steering a shopping trolley with attitude.Gun Pimp wrote:I've owned and used several front rests for benchrest and F Class. I've just bought a SEB NEO - OK shooters say they are expensive but they cost about the same as a new chambered barrel.
That represents excellent value to me - a barrel will take a few hours to chamber and may last a year or two - the SEB will last a lifetime! Fantastic value in my opinion.
As for weight, yes, very heavy to carry about but they can't be too heavy for shooting. Most ranges allow you to drive to the firing point anyway - in the F Class League that is.
When I shoot in a 'home' club shoot, I often use a bi-pod -like one of Mik's - they are very sturdy and not too far behind a proper rest.
For the record - quite a few of the better Open F Class shooters make heavier bases for their SEBs and Farleys.
Anyway - I never begrudge lugging a bit of gear around or walking to butts - better than going to a gym!
Vince
Building a heavier base does serve to dampen the whole assembly and for a single pillar design such as the Farley is probably worth considering however I do feel there is a point at which adding weight fails to give any return, especially as in F Class you use spikes. Maybe on a smooth surface such as a concrete bench rest the additional weight will offer more advantage. Right now the majority of people just offer one type of rest and there are differences in the rest requirements for Bench versus F Open shooting.
Personally I think of more importance is setting the support columns on a turn table, there is nothing more frustrating than bedding you rest down, setting the bag up getting it all level and then realising the rifle is off target by a 10 degrees! Failing to set the rest up at the right horizontal angle can only lead to tracking issues.
First thing I will do is prove a couple of ideas with my existing Farley II by building a new base, I will also change the design of the bag and bag supports as it is very poor in this area.
Re: Bench/F Class front rests.
[/quote] Right now the majority of people just offer one type of rest and there are differences in the rest requirements for Bench versus F Open shooting.
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Dave,
I use the SEB NEO for 100, 600 and 1000 yd benchrest and F Class - no issues with any discipline. Just screw-on Sinclair 'feet' for shooting on grass. Spikes will sink in.
Similarly the Farley is popular at 100 yds benchrest and with F Class shooters.
Vince
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Dave,
I use the SEB NEO for 100, 600 and 1000 yd benchrest and F Class - no issues with any discipline. Just screw-on Sinclair 'feet' for shooting on grass. Spikes will sink in.
Similarly the Farley is popular at 100 yds benchrest and with F Class shooters.
Vince
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i can sell you some nice extended legs for it vince , made by my staff and designed to be 2 inches longer than standard with pointy ends and large kneweled top
Re: Bench/F Class front rests.
Hey Spud - I'm only shooting out to 1000 yards - elevation in spades on the NEO.
Vince
Vince
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Good grief that is some serious elevation!
Re: Bench/F Class front rests.
Gun Pimp wrote:Do I really need 'em? (not me in the pic BTW)
Vince
yes you ned some becuase you havent got any
if anybody wants a set please pm me
Re: Bench/F Class front rests.
Dave,
You didn't address your theory about benchresters and 'effers having different requirements from a front rest.
Vince
You didn't address your theory about benchresters and 'effers having different requirements from a front rest.
Vince
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