Lovely rifle.
Is a flash hider a licensable item?
Both my AR15’s came with standard flash hiders which I removed from them both.
Can I not give these to people?
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Sorry, total thread jack. :)safetyfirst wrote:Lovely rifle.
Is a flash hider a licensable item?
Both my AR15’s came with standard flash hiders which I removed from them both.
Can I not give these to people?
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kennyc
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why on earth would you need a variation for a flash hider ?daryldiane wrote:Received the Mossberg week before last.
Had the muzzle brake removed by Fultons (no charge) Range office said you need to pay 50% of the lane next to you with a muzzle brake, but more importantly you can't use the electronic targets with one due to less space between firing points. Needless to say I'm going to use electronics quite a lot with this.
Off to the zero range to sight in my old S&B PM1 12X42. Used GGG 62 grain from the range office armoury.
Flat muzzle under the brake, no crown. Rifle seemed to group well enough at the zero range, though my scope is out of focus at that range.Time will tell, may have it crowned.
Rifle functioned flawlessly, still a bit worried about the pick up flap at the front of the bolt, but all the reviews say they last, nobody has reported a broken one.
Rifle quality seems very good, maybe not up to Sako standards, but good fit and finish.
Would like to fit an M16 (same thread) flash hider, but you need a variation for one. If I have to get a variation I may go for a moderator.
Will take it out to 100yrds on Thursday weather permitting.
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as far as I am aware yes you cansafetyfirst wrote:Lovely rifle.
Is a flash hider a licensable item?
Both my AR15’s came with standard flash hiders which I removed from them both.
Can I not give these to people?
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Happy to be corrected. But that was my impression from previous discussions.
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In fact if I’m wrong be happy to buy one off you. Safety first.
Why did you remove yours?
Why did you remove yours?
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A moderator lives on it. :)
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Found a company selling AR15 flash hiders for £26 + proofing, then saw this.safetyfirst wrote:Lovely rifle.
Is a flash hider a licensable item?
Both my AR15’s came with standard flash hiders which I removed from them both.
Can I not give these to people?
Please note: flash hiders can only be sent to your local Registered Firearms Dealer for a face to face transaction with the appropriate paperwork.
I did not know that.....
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Gazza
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Plenty for sale on the net with no stipulation of being an on ticket piece.
To me it looks like some are getting the legislation arse about face and classing a flash hider as a muzzle attached sound diminishing device. ie: a moderator
I stand to be corrected as I have just flicked through bits of legislation and various takes on it.
To me it looks like some are getting the legislation arse about face and classing a flash hider as a muzzle attached sound diminishing device. ie: a moderator
I stand to be corrected as I have just flicked through bits of legislation and various takes on it.
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did a bit of Googling as I understand it, a flash hiders status in law is vague (surprise )
Section 57(1) Firearms Act 1968 defines a "firearm". See What is a firearm?
It should be noted that this definition includes "any accessory to any such weapon, designed or adapted to diminish the noise or flash caused by firing the weapon".
This "accessory" is generally known as a moderator or "silencer" and is subject to certificate control. Thus, first acquire and then possess a moderator you will need to have the authority on your firearm certificate, the same as you would for any firearm. You cannot legally possess a moderator unless you have the authority on your firearm certificate.
As with any other requirement for a firearm you will need to satisfy good reason. Every application for a moderator, as with any firearm, will be treated on its own merit, but if you feel you need one, then it should be included on your application.
There are a number of rifles that have built-in sound moderators whereby the moderator is a permanent fixture of the rifle and therefore separate authorisation is not required. However, an applicant would still need to fulfil the "good reason" requirement for such a firearm.
the part in bold is presumably the FUBAR that is causing the confusion, even though the statement then goes on to identify the item refered to as a suppressor.
I believe there has yet to be a jury verdict either way however here is a summary of a case, which has been used to support the view that you need authority to possess a flash hider.
the easiest way to proceed would be to ask your FLD in writing, get a variation for a flash hider and a moderator or get a Brake (which I am sure you don't need a variation for!)
Section 57(1) Firearms Act 1968 defines a "firearm". See What is a firearm?
It should be noted that this definition includes "any accessory to any such weapon, designed or adapted to diminish the noise or flash caused by firing the weapon".
This "accessory" is generally known as a moderator or "silencer" and is subject to certificate control. Thus, first acquire and then possess a moderator you will need to have the authority on your firearm certificate, the same as you would for any firearm. You cannot legally possess a moderator unless you have the authority on your firearm certificate.
As with any other requirement for a firearm you will need to satisfy good reason. Every application for a moderator, as with any firearm, will be treated on its own merit, but if you feel you need one, then it should be included on your application.
There are a number of rifles that have built-in sound moderators whereby the moderator is a permanent fixture of the rifle and therefore separate authorisation is not required. However, an applicant would still need to fulfil the "good reason" requirement for such a firearm.
the part in bold is presumably the FUBAR that is causing the confusion, even though the statement then goes on to identify the item refered to as a suppressor.
I believe there has yet to be a jury verdict either way however here is a summary of a case, which has been used to support the view that you need authority to possess a flash hider.
the easiest way to proceed would be to ask your FLD in writing, get a variation for a flash hider and a moderator or get a Brake (which I am sure you don't need a variation for!)
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