Squib rounds and under levers

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Re: Squib rounds and under levers

#21 Post by GeeRam »

Gh0st wrote:Been shooting underlevers for 19 years.

In my experience most of these squib rounds come from users of .357. Downloaded rounds for Gallery rifle or missed powder measures.

Mine is a .44 even downloaded you know if there is something wrong as soon as you pull the trigger.

Ive had a friend next to me on the line send another round behind a powder less round. Expanded his barrel luckily didnt go bang properly.
As mentioned in the other thread, I also witnessed this first hand 2 weeks ago.

.44 mag Marlin barrel split open as if with a can opener!
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Re: Squib rounds and under levers

#22 Post by redcat »

Gazza wrote:This could be the case as I know our club reloads for the under levers
Isn't it illegal to sell reloaded ammunition?

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Re: Squib rounds and under levers

#23 Post by Alpha1 »

GeeRam wrote:
Gh0st wrote:Been shooting underlevers for 19 years.

In my experience most of these squib rounds come from users of .357. Downloaded rounds for Gallery rifle or missed powder measures.

Mine is a .44 even downloaded you know if there is something wrong as soon as you pull the trigger.

Ive had a friend next to me on the line send another round behind a powder less round. Expanded his barrel luckily didnt go bang properly.
As mentioned in the other thread, I also witnessed this first hand 2 weeks ago.

.44 mag Marlin barrel split open as if with a can opener!
Was the guy using reloaded ammunition or factory. If reloaded ammunition was being used did he re load it him self. How old is he.
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Re: Squib rounds and under levers

#24 Post by Alpha1 »

redcat wrote:
Gazza wrote:This could be the case as I know our club reloads for the under levers
Isn't it illegal to sell reloaded ammunition?

Redcat
Any one that shoots reloaded ammunition that they have not reloaded them selves deserve every thing they get. I am 66 years old I have been reloading for probably 30 years and I do not regard my self as an expert I learn some thing new every time I sit down at my reloading bench. I have never had a squib load.
This business of over 65's being likely culprits is rubbish. I could tell you some very hairy tales about so called expert re loaders in the 18 to 50 age bracket. I had a guy show me a .357 round on the range a week ago that looked like it had been hit with a hammer the case was so compressed and rippled I did not recognize the fact it was a .357 round I thought it was a bottle neck case. it was only when he described his reloading procedure picked up of the internet that I realized what an abortion it was. I counselled him then moved to another firing point. Whilst I was on the firing point he had gathered up his stuff and left. I see a lot of younger people who are far to eager to get there hands on a firearm certificate so they can rush out and buy lots of toys. Then over night after watching you tube videos they are suddenly experts and know every thing they need to know about hand loading when in reality all they are doing is reloading. From day one they have to have all the whistles and bells to do it instead of taking there time and learning there craft.
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Re: Squib rounds and under levers

#25 Post by ukrifleman »

redcat wrote:
Gazza wrote:This could be the case as I know our club reloads for the under levers
Isn't it illegal to sell reloaded ammunition?

Redcat
Yes it is.

Only ammunition that has been CIP tested and approved may be sold.

I have been reloading for nearly 50 years and currently load 17 calibres.
Some of the things I have learned along the way are;


#1 Spend your first hard earned cash on a good reloading manual (2 would be better) and READ them before you start buying kit.
#2 Allow sufficient time to carry out the allotted task and don't allow yourself to be distracted when you are loading (no TV, no kids around your feet)

#3 Develop a safe reloading routine and stick to it, don't rush or cut corners.

#4 Check and double check that primers are seated correctly before charging cases with powder.

#5 If you are loading cases with less than 50% volume of powder, take a FIRED case and deliberately double charge it and make a note of where the powder comes to, so that you will recognise a double charge when you see it.

#6 Check and double check powder levels before seating bullets.

#7 I always shake a loaded round before it goes into the storage box to confirm that there is powder present, if somehow you double charge a light load you should recognise it, as it will sound different when you shake it.

#8 Avoid progressive presses in the first instance, as they can be a recipe for disaster in the hands of a novice, a good single stage press is capable of producing sufficient ammunition for most people and it allows you to monitor each stage of the reloading process and therefore minimising mistakes.

#9 Don't take anything you see or hear on the internet as gospel.

#10 When you start to purchase kit, buy a good quality beam scale such as RCBS or Redding.
Avoid cheap electronic scales as they can suffer from `wandering zero`
I would also recommend a set of check weights for the scale.

Finally, there is only one persons reloads that I trust - MINE!!

(Here endeth the lesson!)

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Re: Squib rounds and under levers

#26 Post by GeeRam »

Alpha1 wrote:
GeeRam wrote:
Gh0st wrote:Been shooting underlevers for 19 years.

In my experience most of these squib rounds come from users of .357. Downloaded rounds for Gallery rifle or missed powder measures.

Mine is a .44 even downloaded you know if there is something wrong as soon as you pull the trigger.

Ive had a friend next to me on the line send another round behind a powder less round. Expanded his barrel luckily didnt go bang properly.
As mentioned in the other thread, I also witnessed this first hand 2 weeks ago.

.44 mag Marlin barrel split open as if with a can opener!
Was the guy using reloaded ammunition or factory. If reloaded ammunition was being used did he re load it him self. How old is he.
Reloaded by himself. Aged late 60's/early 70's.
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