Just starting out with reloading

[SmithSights]

Hello,

Sorry, guys, they're SST bullets. Similar to A Max.

Regards,

Josh

[Alpha1]

Nice ammo all the same.

[phaedra1106]

4. Following the trimming, I anneal the case necks and shoulders. This further extends life of the cases and helps keep uniform grip on the bullets. (When annealing, do NOT get 'em red hot. The right temp is found at about a dull red glow in dusk light conditions.)

By the time to you get a visible red glow you're already over temperature, probably hitting around 900f to 950f

Ideally your neck temperature should be 750f to 800f max for a few seconds, if in any doubt use Tempilaq to check.

There's a very good article at 6mmbr (link below) but this is the important part,

"Brass will begin to glow a faint orange at about 950 degrees (F). Even if the heating is stopped at a couple of hundred degrees below this temperature, the damage has been done--it will be too soft."

http://www.6mmbr.com/annealing.html

[SmithSights]

4. Following the trimming, I anneal the case necks and shoulders. This further extends life of the cases and helps keep uniform grip on the bullets. (When annealing, do NOT get 'em red hot. The right temp is found at about a dull red glow in dusk light conditions.)

By the time to you get a visible red glow you're already over temperature, probably hitting around 900f to 950f

Ideally your neck temperature should be 750f to 800f max for a few seconds, if in any doubt use Tempilaq to check.

There's a very good article at 6mmbr (link below) but this is the important part,

"Brass will begin to glow a faint orange at about 950 degrees (F). Even if the heating is stopped at a couple of hundred degrees below this temperature, the damage has been done--it will be too soft."

http://www.6mmbr.com/annealing.html

Correct. I've found that Templiq and my eyes agree in dusk conditions. When I do this, I'm almost in the dark.

Any glow by daylight and you're over temp. I find that about eight seconds while spinning in a drill is about the maximum time it should take for it to reach temp.

Regards,

Josh

[SmithSights]

Nice ammo all the same.

I appreciate it.

That apology was because I figured I should have mentioned the bullet used. I didn't see anything in the rules about not mentioning specific loads, but I'm not seeing others mentioning their recipes and some other boards do frown upon it, so I've not mentioned specific components.

Regards,

Josh

[ovenpaa]

Josh, are you seeing good accuracy and expansion with the SST's on soft targets? I used the Interlocks for a while however they did not work for me accuracy wise.

[Yogibear]

Thankyou for the useful advice. Some more useful than other.

Wise words Allan but unfortunately rarely heeded by those besotted by "ammunition machines".

I've given up advocating such a sensible approach to hand loading on here, black powder versus substitutes is another classic, as like most things is rarely heeded, people will find things out for themselves in fullness of time, cost doesn't seem to be an issue nowadays and frugality a lost virtue. As my father used to wistfully say to me when I was boy "you cannae put a auld heid on young shoulders".

I thought that what I might do , would be to research as much as possible ask questions of reloaders, gain as much information as possible, then using my own knowledge of my personal circumstances, technical abilities and shooting requirements and local licencing restrictions come to my own informed decision.

However anybody who is better informed than me on my requirements and situation is welcome to tell me exactly what to buy and how to use it. Please attach a CV of your complete shooting, education and related experience so that I may ascertain how much credence to give to your advice.




Sorry to moan so early in joining the forum. I thought it would be better to ask questions in the forum rather than purely take a salesmans advice and learn the rookie errors the hard way.

Now donning my flak jacket, tin hat and taking cover ready for the s**t storm about to head my way.

[dromia]

How you chose to interpret posts is just that your choice.

Mine was a general comment to 1066, not specific to you, but if the cap fits wear it if it doesn't don't. I can assure you that if I had wanted to be specific then I wouldn't have hesitated and left you in no doubt.

As you think me not qualified to comment then all you have to do is not read my posts, I shall refrain from now on contributing to yours as you see my contributions as having no value there is no point in me wasting my time and I would not wish to upset your well developed sensitivities any further.

A final word of unsolicited advice about using forums such as this, the best way to get benefit from it is to look at what is being said and not the person who says it.

[Rockhopper]

This forum needs a like button :-)

[Yogibear]

Not trying not to pick on your post inparticular, but had to quote one.
Just trying to say that I would like to form my opinion based all the facts I have. That includes whether I buy a single stage press or a progressive.
Again not saying that people are not qualified to give me advice, I do not know any of you, or even know what you shoot etc. Everybodys situation is different, what might work for one may not be the best for the next.
I get it from the posts that some people dont regard ammunition machines being for people starting out in reloading, but offered no explanation as to why. I guess that they have explained it so many times before to other people that now I should automatically know.

I am here as a fact finding mission. I will listen to peoples opinions and their reasoning behind them. However opinions such as " Don't buy Hornady or Lee, because they are red" may be listened too, but probably discarded.

Not meaning to offend anybody and I was not aiming the remarks at you (but I do understand it seems that way because I quoted you). I am grateful for the advice and hope that you would continue to contribute. I understand that every body who offers advice here has more experience than me with regards to reloading, but please don't assume that I am a complete numpty with zero technical, mechanical, engineering etc abilities. I am not going to step out of my comfort zone and dabble with things which I cant comprehend because that's how a bloke on the internet told me to do it.
Just to avoid doubt, I am not besotted with ammunition machines, I am open to all options, not set on any makes, just looking for the right system for me.

Sorry if I have come over as a wee crabbit.
I am a light hearted sole really!