One for RFD's -Scrapping of firearms and associated parts

[snayperskaya]

To be honest Saddler I think the guidance given by Camb police makes perfect sense otherwise there would be no control of any items that may or (more worryingly) may not have been destroyed.
Without any control what would stop someone giving false notification to the authorities that an item has been destroyed/disposed of when in fact it is still very much fit for purpose and could end up in the wrong hands.

What happens say, hypothetically, you're on a boat with your rifle and it gets knocked over the side. There's no possible way to find it so it has effectively been destroyed. How do you take it to an RFD...?

Apparently the Yanks have lots of "boating accidents" where AKs and ARs etc go missing!!!

[saddler]

To be honest Saddler I think the guidance given by Camb police makes perfect sense otherwise there would be no control of any items that may or (more worryingly) may not have been destroyed.
Without any control what would stop someone giving false notification to the authorities that an item has been destroyed/disposed of when in fact it is still very much fit for purpose and could end up in the wrong hands.

Just as well the website was Cambs Police then, as IF it had been Durham I'd have thought it was purely designed to attract more surrendered guns in order for them to be sold out of the station locker by police staff

&

The highlighted text shows a good use of a meeja-speek-eese soundbite for "all guns are evil & the only source of them in the UK must be the legitimate sporting shooter, they are solely to blame here" lack of independent thinking.

Why do you think that there is a lack of "any control" at present? I'd say there is a lot of control....and failure to adhere to the rules WILL in more cases than not see the offender looking at a serious amount of time spent in jail...so how many folk would risk their livlihood doing something under the counter for the odd £50 or so? The same sort that DO already do under the counter kit do so with non-firearms items as they are less regulated & less likely to attract the attention of the authorities...

AND

It has been proved many times over - the supply of guns on the streets to the criminal element is not hampered by them bothering to ask for an FAC or the like as the guns are smuggled over in very surprising quantities without detection.

[Cad Monkey]

To be honest Saddler I think the guidance given by Camb police makes perfect sense otherwise there would be no control of any items that may or (more worryingly) may not have been destroyed.
Without any control what would stop someone giving false notification to the authorities that an item has been destroyed/disposed of when in fact it is still very much fit for purpose and could end up in the wrong hands.

What happens say, hypothetically, you're on a boat with your rifle and it gets knocked over the side. There's no possible way to find it so it has effectively been destroyed. How do you take it to an RFD...?

[Cad Monkey]

To be honest Saddler I think the guidance given by Camb police makes perfect sense otherwise there would be no control of any items that may or (more worryingly) may not have been destroyed.
Without any control what would stop someone giving false notification to the authorities that an item has been destroyed/disposed of when in fact it is still very much fit for purpose and could end up in the wrong hands.

Just as well the website was Cambs Police then, as IF it had been Durham I'd have thought it was purely designed to attract more surrendered guns in order for them to be sold out of the station locker by police staff

&

The highlighted text shows a good use of a meeja-speek-eese soundbite for "all guns are evil & the only source of them in the UK must be the legitimate sporting shooter, they are solely to blame here" lack of independent thinking.

Why do you think that there is a lack of "any control" at present? I'd say there is a lot of control....and failure to adhere to the rules WILL in more cases than not see the offender looking at a serious amount of time spent in jail...so how many folk would risk their livlihood doing something under the counter for the odd £50 or so? The same sort that DO already do under the counter kit do so with non-firearms items as they are less regulated & less likely to attract the attention of the authorities...

AND

It has been proved many times over - the supply of guns on the streets to the criminal element is not hampered by them bothering to ask for an FAC or the like as the guns are smuggled over in very surprising quantities without detection.

I give up, Saddler you are a cock mate and trying to associate my logic with the current hype being created by the media is just bollox. In addition I did not state there was a lack of control, what I was stating was the very opposite.

[Cad Monkey]

To be honest Saddler I think the guidance given by Camb police makes perfect sense otherwise there would be no control of any items that may or (more worryingly) may not have been destroyed.
Without any control what would stop someone giving false notification to the authorities that an item has been destroyed/disposed of when in fact it is still very much fit for purpose and could end up in the wrong hands.

What happens say, hypothetically, you're on a boat with your rifle and it gets knocked over the side. There's no possible way to find it so it has effectively been destroyed. How do you take it to an RFD...?

I would say, hypothetically, that you should try using a fishing rod like normal folk would

[TattooedGun]

To be honest Saddler I think the guidance given by Camb police makes perfect sense otherwise there would be no control of any items that may or (more worryingly) may not have been destroyed.
Without any control what would stop someone giving false notification to the authorities that an item has been destroyed/disposed of when in fact it is still very much fit for purpose and could end up in the wrong hands.

What happens say, hypothetically, you're on a boat with your rifle and it gets knocked over the side. There's no possible way to find it so it has effectively been destroyed. How do you take it to an RFD...?

I would say, hypothetically, that you should try using a fishing rod like normal folk would

But it's the fastest way across the loch to the deer...!

[huntervixen]

To be honest Saddler I think the guidance given by Camb police makes perfect sense otherwise there would be no control of any items that may or (more worryingly) may not have been destroyed.
Without any control what would stop someone giving false notification to the authorities that an item has been destroyed/disposed of when in fact it is still very much fit for purpose and could end up in the wrong hands.

What happens say, hypothetically, you're on a boat with your rifle and it gets knocked over the side. There's no possible way to find it so it has effectively been destroyed. How do you take it to an RFD...?/quote]

I always look forward to mackerell shooting season, loosing the rifle overboard is a constant hazard though and its just not as much fun now grenades arn't considered sporting!

[TattooedGun]

To be honest Saddler I think the guidance given by Camb police makes perfect sense otherwise there would be no control of any items that may or (more worryingly) may not have been destroyed.
Without any control what would stop someone giving false notification to the authorities that an item has been destroyed/disposed of when in fact it is still very much fit for purpose and could end up in the wrong hands.

What happens say, hypothetically, you're on a boat with your rifle and it gets knocked over the side. There's no possible way to find it so it has effectively been destroyed. How do you take it to an RFD...?

I always look forward to mackerell shooting season, loosing the rifle overboard is a constant hazard though and its just not as much fun now grenades arn't considered sporting![/quote]
if Mick Dundee taught me anything, it's to use Dynamite...

[Swamp Donkey]

Wildfowlers often lose guns over the side, or in the mud.