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Grizzly

Re: Dealer shops LBR owner to police over loose balance rod

#21 Post by Grizzly »

I sold my Taurus Westlake muzzle loading conversion privately but shipped RFD to RFD. Even though the RFD receiving was told what he was getting when he received it he called the Police because he thought it was Section 5. All he had to do was look in the chamber and realise it only accepted shotgun primers. What a dick.
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Re: Dealer shops LBR owner to police over loose balance rod

#22 Post by Chapuis »

"What a dick." I take it that translates as the chap had a very limited knowledge of firearms. lol

It always amazes me as to just how limited the knowledge of various firearms some RFDs actually is. Some seem to deal in very restricted areas of expertise.
Grizzly

Re: Dealer shops LBR owner to police over loose balance rod

#23 Post by Grizzly »

Chapuis wrote:"What a dick." I take it that translates as the chap had a very limited knowledge of firearms. lol

It always amazes me as to just how limited the knowledge of various firearms some RFDs actually is. Some seem to deal in very restricted areas of expertise.
How could you not, as an RFD and having it in your hand, notice the difference between a section 5 revolver and a Section 1 Westlake Muzzle Loading revolver, so much so that you call the Police. And he was forewarned. It's embarrassing.
breacher

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#24 Post by breacher »

Grizzly wrote:
Chapuis wrote:"What a dick." I take it that translates as the chap had a very limited knowledge of firearms. lol

It always amazes me as to just how limited the knowledge of various firearms some RFDs actually is. Some seem to deal in very restricted areas of expertise.
How could you not, as an RFD and having it in your hand, notice the difference between a section 5 revolver and a Section 1 Westlake Muzzle Loading revolver, so much so that you call the Police. And he was forewarned. It's embarrassing.
Depends - I have been in some UK gunshops where ONLY airguns, shotguns and a few BRNO .22 sporting rifles were to be seen. Some RFDS are very limited in their experience of pistols.

Especially those who might not have been around in the old pistol days.
Gaz

Re: Dealer shops LBR owner to police over loose balance rod

#25 Post by Gaz »

Equally, years ago, I was in a gunshop where the owner proudly showed off a 10/22 which he'd fitted a .17HMR barrel to... I told him very bluntly to dismantle the thing pronto.
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Re: Dealer shops LBR owner to police over loose balance rod

#26 Post by Sixshot6 »

Gaz wrote:Equally, years ago, I was in a gunshop where the owner proudly showed off a 10/22 which he'd fitted a .17HMR barrel to... I told him very bluntly to dismantle the thing pronto.
Never mind the legality, how well would the damn work? Ruger themselves couldn't get one to work properly.
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Re: Dealer shops LBR owner to police over loose balance rod

#27 Post by Chapuis »

Gaz wrote:Equally, years ago, I was in a gunshop where the owner proudly showed off a 10/22 which he'd fitted a .17HMR barrel to... I told him very bluntly to dismantle the thing pronto.
Unbelievable. Makes you wonder if the guy had sufficient knowledge to be allowed to sell firearms to the public.
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Re: Dealer shops LBR owner to police over loose balance rod

#28 Post by ovenpaa »

Chapuis wrote:"What a dick." I take it that translates as the chap had a very limited knowledge of firearms. lol

It always amazes me as to just how limited the knowledge of various firearms some RFDs actually is. Some seem to deal in very restricted areas of expertise.


Very true. Some RFD's work within very limited comfort areas, stopping with the things they know best, maybe the sale of firearms only which is not much more than box shifting, or sales of second hand firearms only. Some limit their work to barrel work and some only work with shotguns. Add to this the there is no little black book on how to be an RFD so if we are interested we have to learn from research, advice and experience. I often refer to publications such as the Obsolete cartridge lists, CPS legal guidance on firearms and the Guide on Firearms Licensing Law 2015 and still there are grey areas when it comes to interpretation. We work within a specific field and make and keep extensive data sheets, notes and drawings to support what we do and there are some things I simply will not work on and some that I really enjoy.

If an LBR came to me with a loose balance rod I would take a view on the job. If it was moving slightly where it had been swaged or if the securing screw had obviously been tampered with or removed on multiple occasions and even then there might be a good reason for it. I also reserve the right to not work on specific firearms or for specific persons if I am unhappy about something.
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Re: Dealer shops LBR owner to police over loose balance rod

#29 Post by Marmite5 »

ovenpaa wrote:
Chapuis wrote:"What a dick." I take it that translates as the chap had a very limited knowledge of firearms. lol

It always amazes me as to just how limited the knowledge of various firearms some RFDs actually is. Some seem to deal in very restricted areas of expertise.


Very true. Some RFD's work within very limited comfort areas, stopping with the things they know best, maybe the sale of firearms only which is not much more than box shifting, or sales of second hand firearms only. Some limit their work to barrel work and some only work with shotguns. Add to this the there is no little black book on how to be an RFD so if we are interested we have to learn from research, advice and experience. I often refer to publications such as the Obsolete cartridge lists, CPS legal guidance on firearms and the Guide on Firearms Licensing Law 2015 and still there are grey areas when it comes to interpretation. We work within a specific field and make and keep extensive data sheets, notes and drawings to support what we do and there are some things I simply will not work on and some that I really enjoy.

If an LBR came to me with a loose balance rod I would take a view on the job. If it was moving slightly where it had been swaged or if the securing screw had obviously been tampered with or removed on multiple occasions and even then there might be a good reason for it. I also reserve the right to not work on specific firearms or for specific persons if I am unhappy about something.
All makes sense.
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