Sections of What???

[dromia]

Section 58.

[Browning_grrl]

The fact is that The Firearms Act of 1968 AND all the amendments that come after it are irelevant if you live outside the UK.

I mean no offence. One of my reasons for coming on this Board is to correct my ignorance and misunderstanding(s) of firearms laws in the UK. Many North Americans (myself included to no small degree) have little or no understanding of all of that, and tend to just use the UK (or Australia etc etc) as horrible examples of what happens when governments "ban" guns. Clearly, there is an active and relatively large shooting/hunting community over there (... that would be you "chaps".... ) and I really appreciate that you are willing to answer my (seemingly) silly colonial questions and put up with my occasional opinion. Thanks. :)

[dromia]

No need to apologies to someone else's ignorance.

The only stupid question is the one not asked, don't let one rude post curb your curiosity and interest.

[ordnance]

as horrible examples of what happens when governments "ban" guns . Clearly, there is an active and relatively large shooting/hunting community over there

True as you say, especially Americans think that all firearms are banned in the UK and use the UK as a example of somewhere that the people are not allowed firearms. One other difference in the firearms laws in the UK are I can go to a dealer trade in my 1911 for another and take it with me the dealer sorts out the paper work with the police. Something you can not do in the rest of the UK, Another example of difference in UK firearms laws.
One similar to one of my firearms bellow, originally made in Canada I think. Not a bad 1911 copy, but I am looking to change it. PS Are their restrictions on mag cap for handguns in Canada. ?

The Justice (Northern Ireland) Act 2011

For some time a system has been in place to allow “one off – one on” exchanges of shotguns in Northern Ireland. From 1st December 2011 the system was extended to other firearms. The exchange of rifles and pistols may only take place with registered firearms dealers (not between certificate holders) and firearms may only be exchanged for another of the “same calibre and type”. Prohibited weapons are excluded from the provision. Transfers must be notified to PSNI within 72 hours by both the firearm certificate holder and Registered Firearms Dealer.

[Browning_grrl]

One other difference in the firearms laws in the UK are I can go to a dealer trade in my 1911 for another and take it with me the dealer sorts out the paper work with the police. Something you can not do in the rest of the UK, Another example of difference in UK firearms laws.
One similar to one of my firearms bellow, originally made in Canada I think. Not a bad 1911 copy, but I am looking to change it. PS Are their restrictions on mag cap for handguns in Canada. ?

Generally speaking, yes, they're limited to 10 rounds (with some loopholes and work-arounds....). I'm a wheel-gun gal, so those limits don't affect me personally...

I was just discussing this GB/N. Ireland thing with my partner last night. How does that work, that the gun laws are different? Does N. Ireland have its own Parliament? Coz I thought you sent MP's to London??

Nice 1911, although I have an aversion to the 1911 resulting from having to carry one around for 3 years, back in the day..... :)

[bradaz11]

Americans think that all firearms are banned in the UK and use the UK as a example of somewhere that the people are not allowed firearms. One other difference in the firearms laws in the UK are I can go to a dealer trade in my 1911 for another and take it with me the dealer sorts out the paper work with the police. Something you can not do in the rest of the UK, Another example of difference in UK firearms laws.

If people just used Great Britain instead of UK, they would be right in what they were saying.

as for that 1-4-1 idea, its simple straightfoward thinking that our licensing system needs, but will never get.

I suppose if you did want to sell your gun to someone else, rather than a shop, all you would have to do is both go to the same RFD, you do your 1-4-1 with the RFD, then the other guy buys the gun from the RFD.

[ordnance]

I was just discussing this GB/N. Ireland thing with my partner last night. How does that work, that the gun laws are different? Does N. Ireland have its own Parliament? Coz I thought you sent MP's to London??

The different regions in the UK have their own parliaments with devolved powers. They also have MPs in the UK parliament. Firearms powers remain with the UK parliament. There are different reasons why the handgun ban did not extend to Northern Ireland, for example Unionist politicians at the time made it a condition of them supporting the peace process that the ban did not apply here.

I suppose if you did want to sell your gun to someone else, rather than a shop, all you would have to do is both go to the same RFD, you do your 1-4-1 with the RFD, then the other guy buys the gun from the RFD.

Yes I changed a .22 handgun with a guy at the club that way a while back.

Nice 1911, although I have an aversion to the 1911 resulting from having to carry one around for 3 years, back in the day

Yes , not something I would choose to carry.

[Sixshot6]

One other difference in the firearms laws in the UK are I can go to a dealer trade in my 1911 for another and take it with me the dealer sorts out the paper work with the police. Something you can not do in the rest of the UK, Another example of difference in UK firearms laws.
One similar to one of my firearms bellow, originally made in Canada I think. Not a bad 1911 copy, but I am looking to change it. PS Are their restrictions on mag cap for handguns in Canada. ?

Generally speaking, yes, they're limited to 10 rounds (with some loopholes and work-arounds....). I'm a wheel-gun gal, so those limits don't affect me personally...

I was just discussing this GB/N. Ireland thing with my partner last night. How does that work, that the gun laws are different? Does N. Ireland have its own Parliament? Coz I thought you sent MP's to London??

Nice 1911, although I have an aversion to the 1911 resulting from having to carry one around for 3 years, back in the day..... :)

Is the 1911 really that bad to carry? I know things have moved on over the years, but that being that bad I wonder if it can be that possible? Then again the 1911 seems to fall under love it or loathe it these days.

[Browning_grrl]

Is the 1911 really that bad to carry? I know things have moved on over the years, but that being that bad I wonder if it can be that possible? Then again the 1911 seems to fall under love it or loathe it these days.

I guess it depends. Obviously, mine was the USMC Service side arm, therefore, .45 ACP & heavy on its own. Plus, for much of my time, I was stationed on Okinawa (Japan) and occasionally (24-36 hours at a time) at Da Nang, Vietnam, both places where it can get very hot & humid & the web belt, on the side opposite the holster, used to rub my skin on my side, just at my waist, creating an almost never-ending sore. Quite painful & a great nuisance. I still have a mark from the scarring, even 45+ years later. So, yes, actually. A royal pain to carry around.

[Sixshot6]

Is the 1911 really that bad to carry? I know things have moved on over the years, but that being that bad I wonder if it can be that possible? Then again the 1911 seems to fall under love it or loathe it these days.

I guess it depends. Obviously, mine was the USMC Service side arm, therefore, .45 ACP & heavy on its own. Plus, for much of my time, I was stationed on Okinawa (Japan) and occasionally (24-36 hours at a time) at Da Nang, Vietnam, both places where it can get very hot & humid & the web belt, on the side opposite the holster, used to rub my skin on my side, just at my waist, creating an almost never-ending sore. Quite painful & a great nuisance. I still have a mark from the scarring, even 45+ years later. So, yes, actually. A royal pain to carry around.

Also at that period, you'd have been carrying (assuming it wasn't a commander type) a 20-30 years plus firearm anyway. I also guess holsters's have got better designed since then. On the subject of wheel guns, my father had the uk legal LBR Ruger Superredhawk in 357, it was heavy but worked, its been sold and now he has a 22 Taurus, mine is a 22 buckmark and I just like the browning products I guess and I have to work with stuff due to being left-handed. I can actually drop a mag easier with a right hand release with my index finger (I can't understand how anyone does a thumb release to be fair, but then my thumbs ain't that big). I'm likely in the future to be living in a place where I can own conventional pistols so will look for more left-handed friendly designs and a 1911 seems just that, with maybe some other stuff on the side.