Happy Birthday AK-47

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Re: Happy Birthday AK-47

#11 Post by snayperskaya »

breacher wrote:I found two type 1s while sorting through a batch of 2000 AKMs captured from the PLO by the Israelis.

Made my boss at the time a very happy man !!!
Type1s' are collectors items now and are worth a fortune.Sometimes you still see Somalia pirates etc with very well worn and patina'd Type1s'


Sixshot6 wrote:
breacher wrote:I found two type 1s while sorting through a batch of 2000 AKMs captured from the PLO by the Israelis.

Made my boss at the time a very happy man !!!
I also believe some early Chinese AK's that have milled receivers have Cyrillic characters on them so its possible to get a technical chinese "fake". It was mentioned on the firearms blog a while back. How did you know they were type 1's and not the kind I mentioned? Is there something that gives them away?
Cyrillic lettering on Chinese AKs' is more of a myth and the same has been said regarding the NDM-86 (Chinese version of the Dragunov, there was rumours that they were built on Soviet produced receivers but this wasn't the case as relations between Russia and China had broken down at this time and there was no way the Russians were sharing their new sniper rifle with the Chinese!).The Chinese only used the milled receiver for a very short time before moving over to the stamped AKM type receiver (they reverse engineered a Soviet AKM as they were not granted a licence to produce the new AKM pattern rifle by the Russians).A Chinese stamped receiver is very easy to identify as they have a unique rivet pattern on the front trunnion, also the front sight block on a Chinese variant is a fully enclosed ring unlike the standard "ears" type AKM front sight.
"The only real power comes out of a long rifle." - Joseph Stalin

Give a man a gun and he can rob a bank.....give a man a bank and he can rob the world!.

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Re: Happy Birthday AK-47

#12 Post by Sixshot6 »

snayperskaya wrote:
breacher wrote:I found two type 1s while sorting through a batch of 2000 AKMs captured from the PLO by the Israelis.

Made my boss at the time a very happy man !!!
Type1s' are collectors items now and are worth a fortune.Sometimes you still see Somalia pirates etc with very well worn and patina'd Type1s'


Sixshot6 wrote:
breacher wrote:I found two type 1s while sorting through a batch of 2000 AKMs captured from the PLO by the Israelis.

Made my boss at the time a very happy man !!!
I also believe some early Chinese AK's that have milled receivers have Cyrillic characters on them so its possible to get a technical chinese "fake". It was mentioned on the firearms blog a while back. How did you know they were type 1's and not the kind I mentioned? Is there something that gives them away?
Cyrillic lettering on Chinese AKs' is more of a myth and the same has been said regarding the NDM-86 (Chinese version of the Dragunov, there was rumours that they were built on Soviet produced receivers but this wasn't the case as relations between Russia and China had broken down at this time and there was no way the Russians were sharing their new sniper rifle with the Chinese!).The Chinese only used the milled receiver for a very short time before moving over to the stamped AKM type receiver (they reverse engineered a Soviet AKM as they were not granted a licence to produce the new AKM pattern rifle by the Russians).A Chinese stamped receiver is very easy to identify as they have a unique rivet pattern on the front trunnion, also the front sight block on a Chinese variant is a fully enclosed ring unlike the standard "ears" type AKM front sight.
speaking of the NDM-86, that is one of the few "real" Drag variants available in the US apart from some Russian ones (imported for a brief time in the early 90's) that is around in the US, it goes for about $5000, and a real russian one there goes for an eye-watering $15000 upwards. Its worse than when my dad had his Super Redhawk for sale, at least 3 were on sale at the time he sold his.

edit: I just checked gunbroker, over $4000 for a 7.62x51 NDM-86 and a buy it now price of $499 for a spare mag for it.
breacher

Re: Happy Birthday AK-47

#13 Post by breacher »

Sixshot6 wrote:
breacher wrote:I found two type 1s while sorting through a batch of 2000 AKMs captured from the PLO by the Israelis.

Made my boss at the time a very happy man !!!
I also believe some early Chinese AK's that have milled receivers have Cyrillic characters on them so its possible to get a technical chinese "fake". It was mentioned on the firearms blog a while back. How did you know they were type 1's and not the kind I mentioned? Is there something that gives them away?
Yes - stamped received but totally different in the trunnion area.
Sixshot6

Re: Happy Birthday AK-47

#14 Post by Sixshot6 »

breacher wrote:
Sixshot6 wrote:
breacher wrote:I found two type 1s while sorting through a batch of 2000 AKMs captured from the PLO by the Israelis.

Made my boss at the time a very happy man !!!
I also believe some early Chinese AK's that have milled receivers have Cyrillic characters on them so its possible to get a technical chinese "fake". It was mentioned on the firearms blog a while back. How did you know they were type 1's and not the kind I mentioned? Is there something that gives them away?
Yes - stamped received but totally different in the trunnion area.
Good call. Hope they went to a good home (even as deacts).
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