Dragunov vs Sennybridge "F" range vs 6x42 POSP scope

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Re: Dragunov vs Sennybridge "F" range vs 6x42 POSP scope

#31 Post by meles meles »

Not to mention that in glorious republic of Soviet splendour, cabbages, wheat and meat were often in short supply and the proletariat thus a bit stunted growthwise, even in the European oblasts. Add in the Asian populace and the average height was, well, around 1.5m...
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#32 Post by froggy »

Thanks for all those explanations Tovarich . That 1PN21 does sound like a perfectly designed bipedal game fast acquisition & hitting scope.
I guess the brightness is also much better than the PSO1 ?
Assuming the BDC compensation was calculated for the 7N14, do you experience much shift of PoI with standard Russian mil-surp ammo ?
The 4-12x42 is much rarer than its 3-9x42 counterpart ?

wheat and meat were often in short supply and the proletariat thus a bit stunted growthwise
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#33 Post by snayperskaya »

The brightness is a bit better than the PSO-1 due to the bigger objective lens but optical clarity is about the same but you do get a slight fish-eye effect around the outer edge of the 1pn21s' image which I think is down to the reticles being etched on two seperate lenses.I would imagine the BDC is calibrated for the 7n1 round, as the later 7n14 is a very rare round even in Russia and is hardly ever issued and I would say the vast majority of issued ammunition is standard 150gr light ball as it is by far the most common.I can't comment on the difference in poi between 7n14 and other ammunition but I will say that whether using 150gr Russian milsurp or 174gr Sellior&Bellot the poa/poi is still well within centre mass out to around 6-700m, on paper it would be more noticeable but on Fig11s' they drop just the same.
The 4-12x42 version is rarer, when I contacted the BeLoMo factory for a manual for it the lady that replied was quite surprised I had one and said the 3-9 version is more common.Apparently the 4-12 was produced in batches of 200 and mine is number 197 of batch number 3, going by the serial number.She also said that none have been produced for at least 15 years.
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#34 Post by froggy »

Excellent . Many thanks . Belomo was the only factory to have made that scope or was it also produced in Russia ?
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#35 Post by nickb834 »

According to http://www.dragunov.net/optic_1p21.html NPZ made some upto 1989 and then production was transferred to Belarus (thus Belomo.
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#36 Post by snayperskaya »

froggy wrote:Excellent . Many thanks . Belomo was the only factory to have made that scope or was it also produced in Russia ?
From what I can gather the 1p21/PO series were later only produced by BeLoMo (formerly called Zenit) in Minsk, Belarus.There are early 3-9 versions knocking about that have the hammer and sickle mark on them which I believe are rare as 1pn21 was officially adopted by the military in 1989 so not long before the breakup of the USSR.Testing started around 1984 iirc and they were tested in Afghanistan quite a bit.Initially they had a much higher mount and a few other differences but despite this the production version still retained the 1p21 deignation.Below is a pic of an early developement model being tested.


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"This is the Pre-'85 NPZ-developed early variant PSP-1 (aka military Index code 1P21) pancreatic sniper sight, circa 1983/84. It was extensively field tested in Afghanistan on the SVD. Through these efforts, a much improved version entered pilot production at Novosibirsk by 1985 and was officially adopted by the Soviet Army in 1989. At that point in time, series production was transferred to the big Soviet optics factory located in Minsk (Zenit) in modern day Belarus. The improved version is the one we commonly know today. Normally optics don't get their GRAU codes until they are "adopted' but apparently they called this early version a 1P21 before the improved version came out, and didnt bother to change or modify the nomenclature when this was done (factory nomenclature was PSP-1). Although the mount was heavily modified, I guess the basic optical mechanism was pretty much left as is and they didnt think this called for a revision on the model designation. They do that quite often with their equipment, then at other times they seem to add a prefix code for the smallest of reasons".
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#37 Post by snayperskaya »

We are hanging about on the same sites!!! :oops:
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#38 Post by froggy »

Thanks Gents . A 1P21 with great symbol of beloved CCCP would be a nice little cosmetic bonus O:-)
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