dromia wrote:Legitimise or recognise the practice?
I think the law allows either method (it's not specified either way IIRC) but the two Authorities with whom I've had RFDs would prefer the method where the seller transfers the firearm on to the buyers FAC, then sends FAC back and rifle to the RFDs for shipping. However they haven't bleated when it has been done the other way.
You could just say "I sold it to RFD A who sold it to RFD B who must have finally sold it to FAC holder A." Job done.
Just don't ask who to go to for problems regarding issues with the gun or warranty
Arming the Country, one gun at a time.
Good deals with Paul101, Charlotte the flyer, majordisorder, Charlie Muggins, among others. Thanks everybody.
I have often pondered on the whole RFD system of recording transactions. An RFD can enter a firearm onto his/her register without need to notify the police, ship it to another and the firearm go around the country twice to 10 RFD's all without having to notify anyone and it is only when the firearm is eventually sold and entered onto an FAC that the police are notified of the transaction. This means the whereabouts of the rifle could be unknown for many years unless the police decide to resort to a long and involved paper trail.
We made a decision from the start not to charge for receiving firearms for people we know. We also do not charge for forwarding other than the courier charges for people we know. It takes a couple of minutes to log a firearm into the register and as such I see no reason to make money on the operation.
/d
Du lytter aldrig til de ord jeg siger. Du ser mig kun for det tøj jeg har paa ...
Sorry for dragging up an old topic, but I have a question.
If I were to drive to an RFD and hand off my rifle to them for work to be done on it. But then want them to post it back to an RFD closer to home to avoid a 7 hour round trip. What would be entailed?
Would the rifle get transferred from my possession to the RFD then to the other RFD and back to me, or would it not need signing over?
That shouldnt pose any problems as the firearm is already on your fac.
In the case of selling items and shipping it via rfd the seller needs to write it up on the buyers fac.
Back of fac clearly states that in transfers the receiving dealer must not enter the firearm onto the fac.
Im not sure of the legal standing with regards to liability etc when it goes through dealers.
Dellboy wrote:If you are waiting for a variation and before it comes you find the gun you want could you buy it and store it at an RFD ?
Technically the RFD would buy it and store until such time as you had the slot and it could be transferred to your FAC. Depends on your RFD really, some won't touch a private deal as they're worried you could hold any kind of warranty issue against them. If it was a trade deal they'd probably be keener to help.
TattooedGun wrote:
Would the rifle get transferred from my possession to the RFD then to the other RFD and back to me, or would it not need signing over?
They'd enter it into stock and give you a receipt, the RFD to RFD would only be carriage and paperwork between them. When you get it back there'd be reason to alter any of your paperwork.
Not that I'm an RFD, but I've bought and sold a dozen or so rifles in the past 4 years.
GMP have told them that they cannot allow the same firearm to appear on 2 FACs. So in the event that I sell and want to transfer it via RFD, I need to lodge it with them and then complete a transfer form. Only when I receive my FAC back can the rifle travel to the RFD nominated by the new owner, they enter it onto his license like a direct sale. The local RFD charges £40 for this service, plus carriage.
so you are now sending your certificate back to plod everytime you buy or sell a gun?? how would that work for F2F sales? or in their world, do you HAVE to do it via RFD's?
When guns are outlawed, only Outlaws will have guns
