Bisley F-Class League : NLRC

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RobB

Re: Bisley F-Class League : NLRC

#11 Post by RobB »

I'm sure that if someone in the 'regions' were to organise an equivalent league further north they would be well supported including those of us further south. I believe all the f class meetings are organised by volunteers and I doubt EagerNoSkill has any more free time to organise everyone's weekend pursuits even if he wanted to.

Thanks EagerNoSkill and the NLRC for organising this. Hopefully someone nearer Diggle and Blair Atholl will look at doing the same.

I note that the first 3 rounds of the national f class league are all over 200 miles north of Bisley.
RobB

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#12 Post by RobB »

Seems Diggle already does :)
StanDeasy

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#13 Post by StanDeasy »

No they don't. They don't have the capacity to hold open team matches.

Congrats to Tim for this initiative, which hopefully will fill a gaping hole in F Class competitive shooting.
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#14 Post by Laurie »

StanDeasy wrote:No they don't. They don't have the capacity to hold open team matches.

Congrats to Tim for this initiative, which hopefully will fill a gaping hole in F Class competitive shooting.

You're partly correct as we're talking team shooting with Tim's initiative- unless other PSSA Diggle fixtures were shunted aside to make space. With financial help from the GB F-Class Association, Diggle now runs up to 10 targets, and by GB-FCA League Round 3 in late May, both the 800 and 1,000 yard firing points will hold 20 shooters - the 1K point was extended last year, 800 is being done now. There is now full vehicle acess to the 1,000 yard firing points which assists greatly too for major events, and 800 is a short walk from the car park.

Nevertheless, the the tiered firing points are not ideal for a full-house team event needing four bodies on the firing point per lane. Still, it depends on how many lanes are needed. Bisley's Stickledown is a unique facility for civilan shooters in the UK though with its 50 lanes and mostly level firing line.

The other major capacity issue still to be addressed at Diggle is electronic targets. If funding assistance can be obtained (a bid was made under the post Olympics fund which nearly succeeded), a second bank of targets would be provided as an addition to the old army manual frames which would increase turnaround and shooting capacity substantially for major fixtures.

PSSA Diggle has seen a great deal of investement and expansion in recent years and is going from strength to strength. The concept of it becoming a major northern target shooting hub is being explored and developed and I understand the NRA is both interested and is likely to be supportive. We are increasingly running our own training / development events for members and non-members for those who find Bisley too far to travel to. The GB F-Class Association has already been massively supportive financially and also in many other respects.
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Re: Bisley F-Class League : NLRC

#15 Post by Alpha1 »

Alpha1 wrote:
Well good for you but wouldn't it be nice if we had some regional shooting centres rather than every body having to travel to Bisley.
Sorry but at 64 years old my days of leaving work on a Friday and traveling down to some were like Bisley are long gone.


Well
1. I am not the NRA - I am a shooter in club using the facilities at my disposal in the region I live
2. The club and numerous members are investing plenty of time and money in F-class to promote and support
3. Try to get new members and to refresh and re-engage older shooters

So how about you direct you complaints, ire, and bitching at the appropriate authorities instead of tainting honest endeavours with your view.

As for regional shooting centres - I endorse that 100%
But the macro political environment (i.e. f'd up) / lands space / NRA disconnect / declining membership impacting NRA funding / lack of active state support
are ALL factors outside my control.

Do me favour don't post when you cant add some positive value.
So thanks for dumping your turd in our drinking bowl!

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Fair comment except for the drinking bowl bit. Ugh. I applaud your efforts good luck with F class thing.
RobB

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#16 Post by RobB »

I had hoped to be at Diggle for the first f class shoot on 21st March. Was a little too optimistic as my variation only arrived last Saturday (7 weeks) leaving little time to sort out the rifle, reloading (never done before), load development for the rifle etc etc. So cancelled the hotel booking and target a later date to enter the league.

Sounds like a lot of effort and upgrades are being made so look forward to making the trip at some point this year.
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#17 Post by 20series »

Tim

Good luck with the idea mate, sadly there will always be those detractors of any idea if it doesn't suit.. teanews

I hope that as and when circumstances allow I'll get down myself :wave:

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#18 Post by Maggot »

Mr_Logic wrote:Alpha, with respect I don't think that whinge is very helpful here. Here's your basic problem - f-class is mostly shot at long range. Your long range choices are Bisley, Diggle, Blair and Barton Road.

Of those Bisley has by far the best facilities. Where else would you put it? This is Britain - building 1000-yard ranges just isn't happening - no land!!
Shoot some shorter range ones then, you might draw more folk into the arms race :good:

All bo...cks anyway Tom. The Scenery at Diggle is worth the drive. The only time you shoot 600 is at bloody Diggle......a long way from Bisley, but if you can do it at Diggle there must be other 600 yard ranges in the UK.

Go Figure?

Either way, have a good one and good luck with the league this year girls :D
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#19 Post by Maggot »

EagerNoSkill wrote:
Alpha1 wrote:
It has been structured like this to allow all participants time to travel to Bisley on the SAT morning and get back on the SUN afternoon.
We are expecting intensive support from European shooters eager to shoot F-Class.
Competitors from Germany, Holland and France, and even Italy or Spain can be expected.
Excuse me for laughing you are joking of course.
Ok finish work on Friday evening drive through the night to Bisley. I despair I really do.
As for your
"Excuse me for laughing you are joking of course.
Ok finish work on Friday evening drive through the night to Bisley. I despair I really do."

Well guess what mate that what I DO 3 times for year for matches at Diggle and 2 for matches at Blair Atholl!
AND what else would you have us do ... start at 8 am Saturday morning like most other comps!?!
We are TRYING to help as best we can for those that can!

If that is NOT good enough for you ... well excuse me for not laughing!

I ain't jokimg I am trying to promote, involve and educate!
That explains it then :squirrel:
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#20 Post by Mr_Logic »

You know, it's actually not an arms race. Go buy a factory Savage for 1500 quid, add a bipod and a back bag (granted not cheap, but buy-once items), Sightron scope. Shoot.

I shot the Euros with ammo loaded on a Chargemaster without any bullet prep etc. And in any case, those are prep stages, not expenditure. It's no more an arms race than TR; it's just that a lot of people shooting F-class, certainly F-open, have a lot of spare money and like to spend it on everything they can find!
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