Theft from the NRA Armoury.

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Re: Theft from the NRA Armoury.

#71 Post by FredB »

I don't know anything about it---I was simply making the point that no one else on this forum knows either.
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Re: Theft from the NRA Armoury.

#72 Post by Kungfugerbil »

This month's gunmart has another piece on this. Miss Bayldon-Lee (the party who had the bits go missing) had to send a notice to the NRA Trustees stating that she had made an application for warrant of control which will result in either bailiffs entering premises and removing goods to the value or a court-executed freeze on the NRA's bank accounts and assets.

It's sad and baffling. I'm a new shooter and (rightly or wrongly) believe that the governing bodies should demonstrate and be held to the highest possible standards. It's not like the whole firearm business is new to them...

Of course we only have one side of the story, but I would have expected a public statement from them outlining the position and at the very least complying with the court orders. It doesn't make me rush to sign up, that's for sure :bad:
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Re: Theft from the NRA Armoury.

#73 Post by mag41uk »

Well why don't we ask the NRA or infact Mr Mercer what the issue is?

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#74 Post by ovenpaa »

Kungfugerbil wrote:Of course we only have one side of the story, but I would have expected a public statement from them outlining the position and at the very least complying with the court orders.
There are two sides to every story and sadly the NRA are not defending their corner in public. No doubt 'people in the know' do know what is happening and why the NRA have chosen to not pay up and they could indeed be contesting the order or looking at alternatives. The downside to all this is the NRA will certainly never comment on anything NRA related on this forum and I doubt they will ever put anything in writing regarding this case so it will be a subject of continued speculation.
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Re: Theft from the NRA Armoury.

#75 Post by Dougan »

dromia wrote:
FredB wrote: It did strike me that the parts missing were the ones that I would have removed before putting the rifle into the armoury.
Fred
So you know that the NRA armoury is untrustworthy then Fred.
I get what Fred was saying...if I had a matching ZF41 scope, then whoever I was storing my rifle with, I would remove it...not because I'd question their integrity but because I'd be worried about accidental damage...
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#76 Post by zanes »

Dougan wrote:
dromia wrote:
FredB wrote: It did strike me that the parts missing were the ones that I would have removed before putting the rifle into the armoury.
Fred
So you know that the NRA armoury is untrustworthy then Fred.
I get what Fred was saying...if I had a matching ZF41 scope, then whoever I was storing my rifle with, I would remove it...not because I'd question their integrity but because I'd be worried about accidental damage...
I don't, because as I said on page 3:
I'm sure, like every other managed storage facility in the land, that the NRA issues/records absolutely no kind of "items in store with us" receipt/description or condition report.

I'm sure if the story is a fabrication of some sort the NRA will be appealing the verdict ASAP (and kicking themselves for not issuing a receipt, and telling every other storage business that issuing one might be a good idea in future) and pushing gunmart for a retraction, if necessary through the courts as well.

I suspect there will be no appeal. I wonder why that might be. Maybe the member concerned was issued with a receipt when she deposited her belongings with the armoury. You'd think one would be rather useful for when PC Plod shows up and asks "where is this rifle that is listed on your FAC?". Maybe the person issuing the receipt could have written "Rifle only, no bolt" on it as well?
A bolt isn't the sort of thing I would expect the staff member signing in to miss. Particularly as it's a licenced part....

I somehow doubt the court judged the case on the member saying "I deposited this stuff with them, honest" without some sort of corroboration.
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#77 Post by Dougan »

Good points, and I'm sure they've been central to the issue from the start...

...but there's clearly been some dispute?
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#78 Post by Sim G »

In all of this, the NRA have illustrated they lack one particular attribute. Honour.
In 1978 I was told by my grand dad that the secret to rifle accuracy is, a quality bullet, fired down a quality barrel..... How has that changed?

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#79 Post by the running man »

I only a few 7.3 pistol shooters who swear their stuff had been "played with" whilst at the armoury....

Sim g, I know first hand about the nra and it's cronies lack of honour....
When someone says "it's not about the money" you know what? it probably is all about money!
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#80 Post by Dougan »

Got the NRA Spring Journal today, and it's the first full and honest account of the incident I've read...

...personally I though the NRA would try to forget about it, so I applaud their transparency goodjob
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