RFD computerised record keeping.
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RFD computerised record keeping.
Home Office has changed its stance on this EU directive.
"19th December 2014. No. 41
The Home Office has revisited its position on the implementation of article 4(4) of the EU Weapons Directive 2008/51 (amending Council Directive 91/477).
“We, the Home Office, appreciate that it is not ideal to be changing our approach at this late stage. However, we have reconsidered the scope of the requirements and have decided that rather than mandating firearms dealers to computerise their records we will rely on the National Firearms Licensing Management System (NFLMS), with both police and firearms dealers continuing to record information at current levels. Records will still need to be recorded and maintained for 20 years. This means that firearms dealers can continue to keep paper-based records although we would continue to recommend computerised records as a matter of best practice.” "
"19th December 2014. No. 41
The Home Office has revisited its position on the implementation of article 4(4) of the EU Weapons Directive 2008/51 (amending Council Directive 91/477).
“We, the Home Office, appreciate that it is not ideal to be changing our approach at this late stage. However, we have reconsidered the scope of the requirements and have decided that rather than mandating firearms dealers to computerise their records we will rely on the National Firearms Licensing Management System (NFLMS), with both police and firearms dealers continuing to record information at current levels. Records will still need to be recorded and maintained for 20 years. This means that firearms dealers can continue to keep paper-based records although we would continue to recommend computerised records as a matter of best practice.” "
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Re: RFD computerised record keeping.
f***-ing BRILLIANT timing
Too late for my local RFD he's already jacked it in & transfered his guns and other items to another RFD
Too late for my local RFD he's already jacked it in & transfered his guns and other items to another RFD
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Re: RFD computerised record keeping.
Was that all just because of the computerised register?saddler wrote:f*** BRILLIANT timing
Too late for my local RFD he's already jacked it in & transfered his guns and other items to another RFD
He must really hate computers.
But it has been something of a contentious issue for a while, last renewal I was told I could keep a computerised register as the main register (then it became a must -and now apparently only recommended), but at all the renewals before that and the initial grant I was told it must be a paper register and not a loose leaf system at that.
The insistence on a paper one I can understand as it is harder to add and alter entries at a later date without it being obvious, with the electronic one I use I could go back and alter or add any record at any time without it being noticed.
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Re: RFD computerised record keeping.
He binned it PURELY due to the PC issue...he doesn't own or use one.
Several of us even offered to do it for him
Too late though.
He'll be fuming when he finds out about the backdown!!
Several of us even offered to do it for him
Too late though.
He'll be fuming when he finds out about the backdown!!
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Interesting as my FEO advised me only last month that the paper system ended on Dec 31st this year and that ammunition sales were NOT required to be kept on the electronic system!!!!
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Re: RFD computerised record keeping.
In Durham the left hand doesn't know what the left hand is doing.
Your FEO is a particular fool.
Your FEO is a particular fool.
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Re: RFD computerised record keeping.
Can't really argue that one!dromia wrote:In Durham the left hand doesn't know what the left hand is doing.
Your FEO is a particular fool.
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Re: RFD computerised record keeping.
You would of thought that they would of considered the full scope of the directive before implementing new regulations!!
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It would seem logical, but then look who you're talking about!pb86 wrote:You would of thought that they would of considered the full scope of the directive before implementing new regulations!!
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Re: RFD computerised record keeping.
That's a shame.saddler wrote:He binned it PURELY due to the PC issue...he doesn't own or use one.
Several of us even offered to do it for him
Too late though.
He'll be fuming when he finds out about the backdown!!
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Good deals with Paul101, Charlotte the flyer, majordisorder, Charlie Muggins, among others. Thanks everybody.
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