Ammunition and FAC

[Sim G]

In reality its down to trust as all of the above could be falsified one way or tother.

I faced a similar situation. Rumour was that FEOs were convincing people to write what the reloaded on their FACs. Firstly, I'm of the opinion that you cannot do this and secondly that could be used against you as well as for...

I only have rimfire ammo entered on my ticket. I reload for everything else, including 12ga slug. My answer should it be asked how much I've loaded? I keep a pasta sauce jar on the shelf with all my spent primers in it....

[HALODIN]

My .22 allowance is 2,300 and that was just because I chucked loads of the stuff down range. I doubt there's a better reason than that!

[SevenSixTwo]

Is it any of FEO's business what you reload and in what quantity - and even IF one reloads?

[zzr1100]

I'm allowed 1200 .22+ 600 17hmr+ 600 .308+ 600 .303 .. Erm .. I've only got a small ammo safe ... Go figure !!

[Sim G]

Is it any of FEO's business what you reload and in what quantity - and even IF one reloads?

Yes.

[TattooedGun]

Guidance on Firearms Licensing Law 2014 states;


13.54 Chief officers of police should also consider the “good reason” for possession of ammunition quantities for target shooting. Allocations of 1,000 rounds, to possess, purchase or acquire, are not unreasonable for most regular shooters. A serious target shooter (for example in a county or national squad) may reasonably wish to possess upto 6,000 rounds to ensure consistency in performance between batches. In exceptional circumstances greater amounts may be required. These figures should be used as guides only and should not be interpreted as absolute limits. This is normally applicable to .22RF rather than full-bore target shooting. Economy of purchase (‘bulk buying’) is not considered satisfactory as “good reason”.

Well I mentioned in my accompanying letter that I am shooting competitively for the county squad, so if those are the guidelines, hopefully although I've mentioned "bulk buying" they'll read between the lines and understand that it's the consistency/accuracy that I'm after, rather than just an economy of bulk purchase.

Hopefully if they have any quibbles, they'll call me directly and I can discuss with them based on what I've gleaned from this thread.

Thanks everyone for the input.

[Maggot]

Is it any of FEO's business what you reload and in what quantity - and even IF one reloads?

Course it is, if you are not a collector you don't have any indication of useage

[Maggot]

In reality its down to trust as all of the above could be falsified one way or tother.

I faced a similar situation. Rumour was that FEOs were convincing people to write what the reloaded on their FACs. Firstly, I'm of the opinion that you cannot do this and secondly that could be used against you as well as for...

I only have rimfire ammo entered on my ticket. I reload for everything else, including 12ga slug. My answer should it be asked how much I've loaded? I keep a pasta sauce jar on the shelf with all my spent primers in it....

Hi Sim

I have got quite a good opinion of my FEO, he works pretty hard and knows his stuff, but he still gets mired down by some of the local slants (slants that technically should never happen).

I had hell of a job convincing him that I needed a collectors slot just to collect expanding ammo (inert).

His argument was that it was not a round of ammo until all the components were assembled.....I could not argue with that.

He also argued that you could buy the damned things on fleabay, so why did I need a slot?

I pointed out that should he move on, or I get collared coming home by another force with even an inert round of expanding, job, FAC, freedom could (potentially) go west.

So he simply said sod it, I will put you down for AP, they will have to give you a slot then....which they did.

This is the real problem with the various forces doing their own thing and interpreting the rules.

I live in Hampshire, but I shoot in Dorset and Surrey, and have travelled and shot in Kent and Lancashire.....will they all have the same parameters?

I don't know.

[SevenSixTwo]

Is it any of FEO's business what you reload and in what quantity - and even IF one reloads?

Yes.

Curious. Mine never asked.

[ukrifleman]

I don't keep a log of how many rounds I load and certainly don't keep used primers as evidence and I never enter reloads onto my FAC.
I do keep a log however, of the amount of ammunition I hold, partly to have an accurate record if the unthinkable happens and it is stolen.

In my view, ammo stock limits are laid down and entered onto your FAC and it is the individual's duty to adhere to such limits on pain of prosecution. I see no sense in individual FAC holders adding unnecessary layers of bureaucracy when it is not needed. We jump through enough hoops already.

As far as I am concerned, the mere fact that I was granted a Firearms Certificate, (43 years ago) proves that I am a law abiding citizen who can be trusted to adhere to the terms and conditions as entered onto my certificate.

ukrifleman.