Repealing the Firearms (Amendment) No.2 Act

[Alpha1]

Alpha1, what a dick you have just been. When they come for what ever firearms you have, you'll want some help. Why they still have guns in the USA - they stick together. We must also do that and if you don't support me on this point you clearly want no shooting at all, as that is where our road takes us.

They came for my guns they threatened to arrest me if I did not hand my pistols in been there done that. They are not going to give you them back.

[Alpha1]

Alpha1 wrote:


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Anyone who doesn't support it doesn't deserve to own firearms...


I don't support it. Its a total waste of time.

Then he askes those on here for info for his 6.5 reloading and others. Well in future giving you the info "is a total waste of our time

I think 6.5x55 is a rifle calibre I don't own any thing in a pistol calibre that I need re loading data for. But if you need any pistol reloading data I will be happy to help I still have all my logs from when I was shooting pistols competitively. Before they stole my hand guns from me.

[Alpha1]

Alpha1 wrote:


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Anyone who doesn't support it doesn't deserve to own firearms...


I don't support it. Its a total waste of time.

so your officially on record as not wanting to ever shoot a pistol if they were to get any kind of repeal.....nice attitude, very supportive of your fellow shooters, i stand for everyones shooting, i may not like certain forms of shooting or get on with some of the folk in that discipline but i support their rights or wishes to do so.... sign85 sign92

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"baldrick, before you speak....i advise you that the explanation you are about to give...........be phonomenally good!!!!!"

If they were to reintroduce hand guns no I would not rush out and buy one shooting a hand gun competitively is very difficult I am to old to relearn the skills involved. Hand guns have no attraction for me I have been there wore the T shirt I am happy with what I have got. If you guys think you desperately need a hand gun be my guest do what ever you want if you think it will help. I don't have a problem with you having a hand gun. But its never going to happen.

[Erika]

Gaz wrote:

The real problem, though, is neutralising shooters who actively disagree with legalising pistols.

Their clubs should expel them...
#personanongrata

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I don't mind signing petitions all though I believe that pistol shooting in the Uk will never happen and you are wasting your time.
What concerns me more is remarks like the quote above. I have been doing this for quite a while now people like this guy worry me. It worries me that he holds a firearms certificate with that sort of attitude. I am so glad I am not a member of the same shooting club as him/her what ever.

I personally have a much bigger issue with the view you express above tbh. Expressing solidarity for fellow shooters does not in anyway equate to that person being a risk or somehow unsuited to own firearms, and to think otherwise is has ridiculous has it is offensive.

It is such attitudes that will destroy shooting, the anti's don't care what, how or where you shoot or how you justify it, they will come for everyone eventually, the only thing that stops them is the strength of the shooting community, division weakens the very foundation of what keeps us alive, taking issue with that division is not absurd but purely logical.

I have first hand experience of such attitudes and believe they are routed in fear, and a mistaken belief that you are stand on firmer ground if you don't make a fuss, and appease the opposition; such an approach hasn't worked yet, nor will it now... and I personally find it disgusting that someone would draw into question someones suitability to own firearms based on nothing more than a difference of opinion in an online discussion.

[Alpha1]

I disagree with that - we're a broad church and we're never going to get everyone to actively support us. The real problem, though, is neutralising shooters who actively disagree with legalising pistols. They're our most easily conquered enemy at the moment, in my opinion.

I don't disagree if you want a hand gun be my guest I don't give a stuff you can have as many as you like I don't care.. I just don't understand how you could be so naïve as to think they will ever allow you to own one.

What you are saying is if I don't support you in your quest to own a hand gun then I should be thrown out of my primary Club that I have been a member of for at least twelve year. The Guys in the Club have been shooting together in different clubs for what twenty years WE ARE ALL EX PISTOL SHOOTERS . We are all NRA range conducting officers. I am a muzzle loading instructor. Between us we are probably one of the most qualified group of shooters you could share a range with.
I am sorry but in my opinion you are wasting your time you are never going to legally own a hand gun. After some of the comments on here well that might not be a bad thing.

[Blu]

If this and a few other threads are anything to go on, I'd say we have been thoroughly divided and conquered. Campaigning for the return of S1 pistols is a waste of time unless there's unity amongst the shooting community.

I agree entirely, and as stated before I believe it is up to the shooters themselves to get it done as the shooting organizations you already have are too many, to varied and not all reading from the same page. I still believe you need one organization that encompasses all shooting disciplines, something you don't seem to have at the moment and I still believe that only you, the sportsmen/women can get it done.

Blu

[Erika]

I disagree with that - we're a broad church and we're never going to get everyone to actively support us. The real problem, though, is neutralising shooters who actively disagree with legalising pistols. They're our most easily conquered enemy at the moment, in my opinion.

I don't disagree if you want a hand gun be my guest I don't give a stuff you can have as many as you like I don't care.. I just don't understand how you could be so naïve as to think they will ever allow you to own one.

To clarify, I am not being naive, I am simply avoiding being negative. If it takes 10 years, it takes 10 years... if it takes 50, it takes 50... I would rather try and follow what I believe in then to not try because success may only occur on a time scale I am less than happy with, if it happens at all.

[Erika]

If this and a few other threads are anything to go on, I'd say we have been thoroughly divided and conquered. Campaigning for the return of S1 pistols is a waste of time unless there's unity amongst the shooting community.

I agree entirely, and as stated before I believe it is up to the shooters themselves to get it done as the shooting organizations you already have are too many, to varied and not all reading from the same page. I still believe you need one organization that encompasses all shooting disciplines, something you don't seem to have at the moment and I still believe that only you, the sportsmen/women can get it done.

Blu

We at Firearms UK agree so much we went out and did it, now becoming an Association on 1st March, we are dedicated to supporting all forms of legal firearms ownership and shooting and encourage unity and positive action at every opportunity.

[Alpha1]

Alpha1 wrote:


Quote:

Gaz wrote:

The real problem, though, is neutralising shooters who actively disagree with legalising pistols.

Their clubs should expel them...
#personanongrata

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I don't mind signing petitions all though I believe that pistol shooting in the Uk will never happen and you are wasting your time.
What concerns me more is remarks like the quote above. I have been doing this for quite a while now people like this guy worry me. It worries me that he holds a firearms certificate with that sort of attitude. I am so glad I am not a member of the same shooting club as him/her what ever.

I personally have a much bigger issue with the view you express above tbh. Expressing solidarity for fellow shooters does not in anyway equate to that person being a risk or somehow unsuited to own firearms, and to think otherwise is has ridiculous has it is offensive.

It is such attitudes that will destroy shooting, the anti's don't care what, how or where you shoot or how you justify it, they will come for everyone eventually, the only thing that stops them is the strength of the shooting community, division weakens the very foundation of what keeps us alive, taking issue with that division is not absurd but purely logical.

I have first hand experience of such attitudes and believe they are routed in fear, and a mistaken belief that you are stand on firmer ground if you don't make a fuss, and appease the opposition; such an approach hasn't worked yet, nor will it now... and I personally find it disgusting that someone would draw into question someones suitability to own firearms based on nothing more than a difference of opinion in an online discussion.

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A difference of opinion did you read the above quote.

The real problem, though, is neutralising shooters who actively disagree with legalising pistols.

Their clubs should expel them...

That is not a difference of opinion that is some one who wants to disbar some one from his/her shooting club the old Guy who has shot TR for the last twenty years since they took his hand guns of him who now has no interest in going back there should be dis barred because he has no interest in handguns. You have just lost my support young lady. how long have you been shooting what is your primary club what disciplines do you shoot what firearms do you own who is your FAC licencing authority. You do have a fire arms licence of course otherwise how would you know what you were talking about. You have owned and shot hand guns competitively of course you do know what the different competions course of fire are. When you manage to reinstate hand guns I will be happy to help you to get all the disciplines of the ground I shot most of them and did very well at it. As did all the Guys I shoot with on a regular basis.

[Blu]

If you guys think you desperately need a hand gun be my guest do what ever you want if you think it will help

It has nothing to do with "need and everything to do with the fact that they shouldn't have been banned in the first place. The majority of the law abiding should never be punished because of a wrong doing minority. But hey, you're okay JACK

Blu