Very upsetting - What a waste of a very fine Enfield

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Re: Very upsetting - What a waste of a very fine Enfield

#21 Post by huntervixen »

Makes as much sense as a straight pull L1 to me.

None.

How dare you sir........that's fighting talk where I come from!! :lol: Each to their own mate, I love my SP L1, personally, modern target rifles bore the cr*p out of me, but like I said each to their own.
Maggot

Re: Very upsetting - What a waste of a very fine Enfield

#22 Post by Maggot »

huntervixen wrote:Makes as much sense as a straight pull L1 to me.

None.

How dare you sir........that's fighting talk where I come from!! :lol: Each to their own mate, I love my SP L1, personally, modern target rifles bore the cr*p out of me, but like I said each to their own.
Sorry bud, I did not mean it that way.

I see the point in all firearms, the only reason I don't have more is that I shoot predominantly F/TR and see no point in keeping what I don't have time to shoot (well). Collecting is different, but what I own I shoot.

I just mean that a straight pull is such a shame, its like taking a Ferrari and ripping its heart out.

I trained on the L1 then trained folk on the L85 (amongst loads of other stuff) and still preferred it (the L1) to most other rifles, but to me owning one now would defeat the object, its an LR and not an SLR, which is just plain wrong tesnews

This is why I stayed with bolt actions, the action with nowt farted about with :grin:

But if folk want them, great, its just a shame that's all.

So not having a go.

I guess its a bit like that Lanc that just taxis, its had its wings clipped :bad:
huntervixen

Re: Very upsetting - What a waste of a very fine Enfield

#23 Post by huntervixen »

Hi mate, no problem, SP's arn't for everyone, I know a good few former L1 users who just cant get past the lack of piston!

It's just one of those things, had I been issued with or owned one pre ban , I might feel the same!

Have a great christmas, cheers John.
Maggot

Re: Very upsetting - What a waste of a very fine Enfield

#24 Post by Maggot »

huntervixen wrote:Hi mate, no problem, SP's arn't for everyone, I know a good few former L1 users who just cant get past the lack of piston!

It's just one of those things, had I been issued with or owned one pre ban , I might feel the same!

Have a great christmas, cheers John.
No, don't get me wrong, I would have one, but with a tinge of regret :cry:

Anyway, enjoy it, that's why we have them J :good:
PaulR

Re: Very upsetting - What a waste of a very fine Enfield

#25 Post by PaulR »

Maggot wrote: I just mean that a straight pull is such a shame, its like taking a Ferrari and ripping its heart out.

I trained on the L1 then trained folk on the L85 (amongst loads of other stuff) and still preferred it (the L1) to most other rifles, but to me owning one now would defeat the object, its an LR and not an SLR, which is just plain wrong tesnews

This is why I stayed with bolt actions, the action with nowt farted about with :grin:

But if folk want them, great, its just a shame that's all.

So not having a go.

I guess its a bit like that Lanc that just taxis, its had its wings clipped :bad:
Huntervixen's right, straight pull's are the only way that most us will ever get to own and shoot something that represents semi/full auto classics. In some cases they make quite competitive competition firearms as well.

The SMLE in question is another example of this, it's just a shame that this particular one was such a nice example and to us FAC holders is sacrilege. However to a WW1 re-enactor, it's a chance to own a little piece of history and keep the memory of our forefathers alive.

Oh, and the taxiable Lanc, that's actually being restored to airworthiness and will become the worlds 3rd airworthy example. Imagine, the sound of eight Merlins in a two aircraft in formation............ throw in some Spits, Hurricanes and Mustangs........... :o :o :o
Maggot

Re: Very upsetting - What a waste of a very fine Enfield

#26 Post by Maggot »

PaulR wrote:
Maggot wrote: I just mean that a straight pull is such a shame, its like taking a Ferrari and ripping its heart out.

I trained on the L1 then trained folk on the L85 (amongst loads of other stuff) and still preferred it (the L1) to most other rifles, but to me owning one now would defeat the object, its an LR and not an SLR, which is just plain wrong tesnews

This is why I stayed with bolt actions, the action with nowt farted about with :grin:

But if folk want them, great, its just a shame that's all.

So not having a go.

I guess its a bit like that Lanc that just taxis, its had its wings clipped :bad:
Huntervixen's right, straight pull's are the only way that most us will ever get to own and shoot something that represents semi/full auto classics. In some cases they make quite competitive competition firearms as well.

The SMLE in question is another example of this, it's just a shame that this particular one was such a nice example and to us FAC holders is sacrilege. However to a WW1 re-enactor, it's a chance to own a little piece of history and keep the memory of our forefathers alive.

Oh, and the taxiable Lanc, that's actually being restored to airworthiness and will become the worlds 3rd airworthy example. Imagine, the sound of eight Merlins in a two aircraft in formation............ throw in some Spits, Hurricanes and Mustangs........... :o :o :o
Oh I know, it still wrong though, not ownership, the act of distruction itself, like you say though, better than a total deac!!

This came out all wrong, I am not having a go at owners, straight pull, CSR etc, far from it. The only reason I dont own one and do it is that I am broken and could just about manage a shuffle down the range.

Its a shame they could not keep them going for comp work etc.

I missed that one re the Lanc, but to be fair it was only a matter of time if it was doable.

Enjoy, happy Xmas and new year.
huntervixen

Re: Very upsetting - What a waste of a very fine Enfield

#27 Post by huntervixen »

Hi Paul,

The East kirby Lanc stands as a testament of human endeavor, what those two Farming brothers achieved (in memory of their brother) over the years is nothing short of a miracle! Bear in mind it last flew in 1968 and spent many years as a gate guardian at waddington I think ??

Its amazing enough that it has been brought back to life as a ground taxiing example of an exceptionally rare type, but to take the next step to full airworthiness is a brave step indeed.

Seeing two Lancasters (perhaps three) in formation is now a tantalizing possibility, I really can't imagine a finer memorial to Bomber Command and all the brave young men who fought in its ranks.

My uncle fought in bomber Command as a Flight engineer during the war, (two tours, 60 missions!!), one with 52 sqn (Halifaxes) at Snath and one with 460 at Binbrook (Lancasters) he won the DFC and bar among many other decorations during his long RAF career.

460 had the Bomber Command record for the heaviest losses and the highest tonnage of bombs dropped on enemy targets. I had the opportunity to read is wartime flying logs a few years ago, it made the hairs on the back of my neck stand up reading through the raids!

Most of the aircraft he crewed were shot down and did not survive the war, the number of UK crash landings in his flight engineer's log reports is truly horrifying!!!

Sorry to go off track chaps!

Merry Christmas chaps, have a good one.
froggy

Re: Very upsetting - What a waste of a very fine Enfield

#28 Post by froggy »

love to know what French regiment is depicted in your Avatar, just wondering if its possible for a Brit to join it as a reservist.....

As a quartermaster mate... but what a terrible unit to serve in... those squaddiettes are never happy with the bra size they are issued issued with ... keep coming for new mesurements ... loads of drunken bad behaviour even leading to sexual harrassement... etc ... terrible place it is ...
Maggot

Re: Very upsetting - What a waste of a very fine Enfield

#29 Post by Maggot »

huntervixen wrote:Hi Paul,

The East kirby Lanc stands as a testament of human endeavor, what those two Farming brothers achieved (in memory of their brother) over the years is nothing short of a miracle! Bear in mind it last flew in 1968 and spent many years as a gate guardian at waddington I think ??

Its amazing enough that it has been brought back to life as a ground taxiing example of an exceptionally rare type, but to take the next step to full airworthiness is a brave step indeed.

Seeing two Lancasters (perhaps three) in formation is now a tantalizing possibility, I really can't imagine a finer memorial to Bomber Command and all the brave young men who fought in its ranks.

My uncle fought in bomber Command as a Flight engineer during the war, (two tours, 60 missions!!), one with 52 sqn (Halifaxes) at Snath and one with 460 at Binbrook (Lancasters) he won the DFC and bar among many other decorations during his long RAF career.

460 had the Bomber Command record for the heaviest losses and the highest tonnage of bombs dropped on enemy targets. I had the opportunity to read is wartime flying logs a few years ago, it made the hairs on the back of my neck stand up reading through the raids!

Most of the aircraft he crewed were shot down and did not survive the war, the number of UK crash landings in his flight engineer's log reports is truly horrifying!!!

Sorry to go off track chaps!

Merry Christmas chaps, have a good one.
Bloody amazing people.

I used to walk past the cemetery at Dishforth as a young squaddie. Most of them were younger than me :cry:

I can get someone doing it once, but seeing what they saw, they kept on doing it.

Mind you I guess if you are motivated enough........

As I understood it talking to a few I have had the privileged to meet, much like us, they were more worried about letting their mates or the side down.

Brilliant.
PaulR

Re: Very upsetting - What a waste of a very fine Enfield

#30 Post by PaulR »

huntervixen wrote:Hi Paul

Sorry to go off track chaps!

Merry Christmas chaps, have a good one.
Hi HV

They really wanted a Halifax but they are rarer than Rocking Horse droppings..............and Lancs.

Avro Lancaster - 8 x .303 Brownings or 6 x .303 + 2 x .50 Brownings

There, back on track - well .303 related anyway! razz razz

Have a great Christmas and a Happy New Year everyone.
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