.308 Down loads

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All handloading data posted on Full-Bore UK from 23/2/2021 must reference the published pressure tested data it was sourced from, posts without such verification will be removed.
Any existing data without such a reference should be treated as suspect and not used.

Use reloading information posted here at your own risk. This forum (http://www.full-bore.co.uk) is not responsible for any property damage or personal injury as a consequence of using reloading data posted here, the information is individual members findings and observations only. Always verify the load data and be absolutely sure your firearm can handle the load, especially older ones. If in doubt start low and work your way up.
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Re: .308 Down loads

#11 Post by Rburro2 »

Charlotte the flyer wrote:Apparently it scares the cows! :squirrel: tesnews

We also need information on downloading 7.62R to shut those nasty M44s up. troutslapping
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#12 Post by IainWR »

I do not pretend to be any sort of an authority on reloading, but it is my misfortune to have to investigate the failures, and I do know quite a bit about technical investigations.

Before you start downloading any rifle cartridge, please consider the effect of presenting a large powder surface to the primer flash. This is a critical factor in a current NRA investigation.

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#13 Post by ovenpaa »

Iain, has this ever been proven? I know it is oft discussed however I have never read any conclusive reports.
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#14 Post by tackb »

I've heard a lot about this low charge idea but it sounds like it would be really easy to replicate if it was true but as yet I've never seen any proof other than speculation ?
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#15 Post by dromia »

Here we go again SEE secondary explosion effect.

Once more I refer you to Prof Brownell's research.

http://www.full-bore.co.uk/viewtopic.ph ... 7&start=20

http://www.full-bore.co.uk/viewtopic.ph ... t=Brownell

Using fast pistol powders in rifle cases for reduced loads is not a cause of SEE!!!!

jjvc has given you the standard loading as per Harris and Mattern and it just plain works, Trailboss works fine but at over £50 a lb you must have more money than sense, twice amount at almost twice the price. :o
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#16 Post by old_n07 »

Agreed but if you are only using 10gr in a down loaded cartridge it works out at about 7p per load compared to around 14p when using TR140 with a full load of 40gr +
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#17 Post by old_n07 »

After looking at the links you posted there it also raises the question of using cast bullets which I hadn't considered either sign01
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#18 Post by dromia »

Compare that to 4 gns of N310 a 1.6p per load.
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#19 Post by old_n07 »

sign01 just when I thought 'd settled on a powder to try :lol:

What sort of % fill would the vit give in a 308 case?

Also looking at other threads on down loads some people are drilling out flash holes, is this necessary?
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#20 Post by phaedra1106 »

No, use the correct powder and there's no need to. N140 is not suitable for downloaded 308s!.

As Dromia says, a fast pistol powder is ideal, I used TiteGroup and Trail Boss in 308 subsonics then switched to N310, much better results and a lot cheaper!.

Current loads are 4.9gr in .308 and 3.4gr in 300 Blackout, both using 115gr cast boolits. Both loads run around 980fps and are very accurate at 25m.
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