Mosin Nagant M44 Carbine

[Charlotte the flyer]

Today I got to shoot Leeroys M44 carbine down at URC. For all of the talk on various websites I actually found it fairly docile. Obviously there are the very large flashes from the muzzle but in terms of kick I thought that it was equal to my No4 and less than my K98. The recoil was more of a push than a thump, nice and progressive, which is strange because the same cartridge in a Dragonov is very snappy. So my thoughts are :

The ammo was milsurp, 50's vintage, it is underpowered
OR
Are all of those people moaning about nothing.

All that I know is that I want one!

[Matt]

Must have been the ammo, mine is great fun and depending on ammo will give a great muzzle flash and kick like a mule, mind you, I've had some tame ammo too but still enjoy shooting it

[dave_303]

The surplus ammunition also comes in a wide variety, with steel and lead cored heavy and light ball ammo. I find the heavy ball to be slighter heavier on the recoil in mine

[ukrifleman]

No too ways about it, heavy ball will do it every time!
uikrifleman.

[murphwiz]

Ahh yes, the M44 flame thrower... love it!

[huntervixen]

I just don't know guys, questionable accuracy, heavy kick, muzzle blast like a Krupp works 88, pointless fixed bayonet!

YES PLEASE, LOOKS LIKE MY SORT OF RIFLE!

[Apphelia]

You also forgot "cheap as chips"

[huntervixen]

They do look like fun, joking aside what's the accuracy like on these Great Patriotic War horses?

[Charlotte the flyer]

It depends what you want to do with them. We have a 25yd range at Uttox so it's fine there. They all went where I wanted them to do so no complaints. Videos on Youtube show top shots dropped in a five round group (Americans claiming 'thats what they do') but I didn't see that.

As a bit of cheap fun they are just the job. Not sure I'd want to enter a long distance comp though.

btw, Bayonets are not pointless! both literally, and also the Cpl Jones argument!

[dave_303]

The Bayonet is a necessity on the M44s, the rifles were zeroed with them fixed. The the addition of the muzzle flash I recon they would make a good marshmallow toaster.

I shoot mine out to 200 metres and not being a particularly good shot (only shot fullbore 5 -7 times a year if I was lucky) I could at 200 keep all the rounds within the black, or one the scoring centre mass of a fig.11.