Straight Pull L1A1 Proof house Issues

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huntervixen

Re: Straight Pull L1A1 Proof house Issues

#11 Post by huntervixen »

SevenSixTwo wrote:Nobody has yet explained to me how an L1A1 conversion is legally possible. Genuinely interested in what the difference is.
Home office approved S1 L1A1 mods consisted of the following:

New barrel without bleed, permanently de-activated gas block, deletion of the tube and piston assembly and the modification of the bolt carrier so it will not function with a piston, (very effectively carried out by carefully milling away the piston baring surface of the carrier without weakening it.

My 1962 L1 originally came from Suffolk Gun Company and is slightly different to the Anglo Custom Rifles variant.

Main difference being the method of deactivating the gas block and using their own barrels without bleed (not walther)

Anglo appear to fit and weld a rod into the gas block that protrudes out the front creating a faux gas plug.

Suffolk deac't the block (on mine anyway)The gas bleed passage is drilled out making it useless, then a rod is fed vertically through the underside of the block (Gas bleed hole) and it is welded into the pressure release hole at the top.

This very effectively deacs the block but allows the dial and Gas plug (with it's gas passage channel removed) to be retained.

All looks very nice!

I think moving forward, as more sec 5 firearms get the "SP" treatment, (I know someone who has just ordered a SP M1 Carbine) it might be prudent for all converters/builders of such firearms to agree and use an identical method of deacing components.

This would head off any potential problems with the Home office down the line. Another idea might be for Gas blocks to be deactivated and certified as such by the proof house before fitting, this may require an adjustment in the firearms law.

Looking forward and saving my pennies for a SP Garand!
lasbrisas

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#12 Post by lasbrisas »

[quote=Looking forward and saving my pennies for a SP Garand![/quote]


Just what I will be looking for aswell although not sure where from yet, already have the M1 Carbine and a recently acquired proper straight pull AKM.
PaulR

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#13 Post by PaulR »

lasbrisas wrote:
Looking forward and saving my pennies for a SP Garand![/quote wrote:

Just what I will be looking for aswell although not sure where from yet, already have the M1 Carbine and a recently acquired proper straight pull AKM.
Teee Heeee

Do you mean like mine?

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Wish I knew what the serial number on the stock meant, it is preceded by AA, American Airborne perhaps?

Sorry, I couldn't resist a bit of teasing

PaulR :twisted: :twisted: :twisted:
lasbrisas

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#14 Post by lasbrisas »

Very Very Nice ! I'm not jealous !
mikeb

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#15 Post by mikeb »

NICE!
Blu

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#16 Post by Blu »

Wish I knew what the serial number on the stock meant, it is preceded by AA, American Airborne perhaps?
Hi Paul and nope AA is nothing to do with Airborne. AA is an arsenal marking, at some time in it's life your rifle has gone back to one of the then rebuild arsenals and had a makeover. Your rifle went to the Augusta Arsenal in Georgia for it's makeover.

Typical stamps would be "RRA" for Red River Arsenal", "SA" for Springfield Arsenal,"AA" for Augusta Arsenal, "RIA" for Rock Island Arsenal, or any number of Government arsenals that ran official rebuild programs. As for the serial number below it, well the US arsenals never stamped serial numbers on the wood so the serial number on the butt is an indication that the rifle was issued or sold to an allied army who later stamped the serial number on it.

Blu :twisted:
huntervixen

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#17 Post by huntervixen »

PaulR wrote:
lasbrisas wrote:
Looking forward and saving my pennies for a SP Garand![/quote wrote:

Just what I will be looking for aswell although not sure where from yet, already have the M1 Carbine and a recently acquired proper straight pull AKM.
Teee Heeee

Do you mean like mine?

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Wish I knew what the serial number on the stock meant, it is preceded by AA, American Airborne perhaps?

Sorry, I couldn't resist a bit of teasing

PaulR :twisted: :twisted: :twisted:

Hi Paul,

I don't know what your interest in these nasty old Service rifles is....get yourself a nice modern and very boring target rifle...to help you on your way I will take the Garand off your hands as an act of kindness!

Or how about a straight swap for another classic rile...a 1969 BSA Super Meteor, mint in the box with documentation.... lethal out to a staggering 25yds (if the wind is behind you) the ammo's a lot cheaper mate! :lol: :lol:
PaulR

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#18 Post by PaulR »

Blu wrote:
Wish I knew what the serial number on the stock meant, it is preceded by AA, American Airborne perhaps?
Hi Paul and nope AA is nothing to do with Airborne. AA is an arsenal marking, at some time in it's life your rifle has gone back to one of the then rebuild arsenals and had a makeover. Your rifle went to the Augusta Arsenal in Georgia for it's makeover.

Typical stamps would be "RRA" for Red River Arsenal", "SA" for Springfield Arsenal,"AA" for Augusta Arsenal, "RIA" for Rock Island Arsenal, or any number of Government arsenals that ran official rebuild programs. As for the serial number below it, well the US arsenals never stamped serial numbers on the wood so the serial number on the butt is an indication that the rifle was issued or sold to an allied army who later stamped the serial number on it.

Blu :twisted:
Thanks for that Blu, mystery finally solved.

PaulR
Blu

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#19 Post by Blu »

Paul, Glad to be of service sir. Every day's a school day

Blu :twisted:
PaulR

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#20 Post by PaulR »

huntervixen wrote: Hi Paul,

I don't know what your interest in these nasty old Service rifles is....get yourself a nice modern and very boring target rifle...to help you on your way I will take the Garand off your hands as an act of kindness!

Or how about a straight swap for another classic rile...a 1969 BSA Super Meteor, mint in the box with documentation.... lethal out to a staggering 25yds (if the wind is behind you) the ammo's a lot cheaper mate! :lol: :lol:
Thanks HV for the kind offer to relieve me of the burden of owning the M1, believe me, I've had a hard time over the years of trying not to grin when I shoot it. Wouldn't want anybody to think that it's enjoyable. I've also had to fight people off when trying to record the 'Garand ping' for use as a ring tone.

So as you can see, it is all becoming too much of a burden so regarding your offer, I just might consider taking you up on it.

Right I've considered it and as I already have a 1960 BSA Meteor (it's what started it all) I'm afraid I'll have to decline and soldier on.

Cheers

PaulR ;) ;) ;)
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