Section 1 is Section 1, right....?

[Sim G]

Just a thought generated by a couple of recent threads on "pistols and lbr's"

So, in Northern Ireland a Smith and Wesson 686 in .357, for example, is a Section 1 firearm.

Lets say you ordered one from a Northern Ireland dealer. When this dealer took possession, you had him replace the barrel with a 12" barrel and then add a rod on the back to take it's length to 24". Still Section 1?

But now, this S&W is also a Section 1 on the mainland. Ostensibly, it's never been a Section 5.......

What do you reckon? Doable? Probably a lot cheaper than the £4K S&W's fabled to have come from the continent.

[Blue Lizard]

I like the sound of this - fingers crossed that you get a positive response from someone in 'Authority'.

Used to shoot a S&W 686 (6") in Police Pistol comps back in the day, and can't help but reminisce over the quality compared to the Taurus's we have to settle for at the minute...

[techguy]

I like your thinking there Sim... I can't see how it could *ever* be called a section 5 by the authorities...

[Blackstuff]

Isn't that how the Taurus revolvers are done? Except in Brazil?

[lasbrisas]

I'm not familiar with the laws in NI, are you saying then that pistols in NI are section 1 and not 5 as in the rest of the UK.

[Blackstuff]

I'm not familiar with the laws in NI, are you saying then that pistols in NI are section 1 and not 5 as in the rest of the UK.

Yes, the same as they are in Jersey/Guernsey and the Isle of Man. Its just us mainlanders that can't fight off the magical hypno-kill powers of handguns :roll:

[The Cupcake Kid]

I was under the impression the issue with LBRs is that they have to be available from the factory with a long barrel and the Taurus was the only one which is currently available as standard with a long enough barrel.

[M1Charles1M]

I was under the impression the issue with LBRs is that they have to be available from the factory with a long barrel and the Taurus was the only one which is currently available as standard with a long enough barrel.

I think you are right here, I believe without having checked that because the Pistol was manufactured as an S5 it would be classed as a conversion if made into an LBR and it may be perceived that with some smithing skills it could be re-converted back to S5, for entry to the UK mainland would it not require re-classification and re-proofing?

[Doz]

...it may be perceived that with some smithing skills...

Or a hacksaw, which is what makes it so bloody daft in the first place...

[Primer]

I was under the impression the issue with LBRs is that they have to be available from the factory with a long barrel and the Taurus was the only one which is currently available as standard with a long enough barrel.

I think you are right here, I believe without having checked that because the Pistol was manufactured as an S5 it would be classed as a conversion if made into an LBR and it may be perceived that with some smithing skills it could be re-converted back to S5, for entry to the UK mainland would it not require re-classification and re-proofing?

But with the same said smithing skills there would be nothing to stop you converting an lbr back to sec5 or as above with a hacksaw.