Beware of your target and what's behind it.

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#1 Post by **Chuck** » Wed Jan 30, 2013 4:55 pm

However things sometimes go wrong with tragic results according to this strory.

http://now.msn.com/bullet-ricochets-off ... lls-driver

also:

http://todaynewsgazette.blogspot.com/20 ... s-man.html

#2 Post by **kennyc** » Wed Jan 30, 2013 5:16 pm

seems like tragic accidents, twisted and used as scare stories by the anti's! as to your title, if they were ricochets, then unless your backstop was the North face of the Eiger (devoid of climbers,skiers,freegliders, parapents,train drivers et al) I see no way you could prevent such a million in one occurance (and before someone points out that there are two incidents, how many shots have been fired in between? )

#3 Post by **Sandgroper** » Wed Jan 30, 2013 8:10 pm

kennyc wrote:seems like tragic accidents, twisted and used as scare stories by the anti's! as to your title, if they were ricochets, then unless your backstop was the North face of the Eiger (devoid of climbers,skiers,freegliders, parapents,train drivers et al) I see no way you could prevent such a million in one occurance (and before someone points out that there are two incidents, how many shots have been fired in between? )

Two yes, first one in France and the second in Sweden!

zzr1100 · #4 Post by **zzr1100** » Wed Jan 30, 2013 11:14 pm

I've heard of two tragedies like this .. Both avoidable ..
1) a man shooting at an elk in Sweden .. Elk on the crest of a hill .. The round went through the beast ... You can figure out the rest ..
2) someone shooting at a pigeon on the roof of a barn with a .22lr .. Missed the bird and the round richocheted off the roof killing someone the other side of a field ..

Both "flukes" but both avoidable !!

#5 Post by **Chuck** » Thu Jan 31, 2013 4:32 am

kenny, aye but ye cannae be too careful.

tackb · #6 Post by **tackb** » Thu Jan 31, 2013 8:04 am

both incredible tragic accidents and my thoughts are with the familys but they are just that , accidents ?

John25 · #7 Post by **John25** » Thu Jan 31, 2013 8:08 am

Shooting at a target on the skyline (without a known RDA behind - military ranges) is negligence not accident.

Two more nails in the coffin of our sport.

#8 Post by **Dombo63** » Thu Jan 31, 2013 8:11 am

Ricochet? Hmmmm....I think the title of this thread says it all.

tackb · #9 Post by **tackb** » Thu Jan 31, 2013 8:18 am

John25 wrote:Shooting at a target on the skyline (without a known RDA behind - military ranges) is negligence not accident.

Two more nails in the coffin of our sport.

i didn't see the bit in the original articles posted saying either was on a skyline?

#10 Post by **kennyc** » Thu Jan 31, 2013 10:26 am

Dombo63 wrote:Ricochet? Hmmmm....I think the title of this thread says it all.

not really, if the bullet ricocheted off a bone then all bets are off about backdrop, as the angle would divert the bullet path in a totally unpredictable direction,as to whether the bullet would be able to travel a mile under those circumstances ? I'm not convinced, however, we are talking about fluke conditions. As to a "shoot through" under those circumstances, I agree with john25, sheer negligence !

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