A World Premier - The Model 75 Tube rifle

[spud]

Looks like a single shot Tubb T2K to me. Nothing new really.

me likey , me trying to get one as we speak

[R.G.C]

Thanks R.G.C

...So more options and flexibility on switching barrels on the single shot version....

I'm still curious about hearing anyone's 'preferences' for 2 different barrels, one for short and one for long range? - I can understand why being able to switch calibers is good for hunters, but am still trying to work out if it can be advantageous to a paper-puncher....?

Dougan,

I can only pass the late Laurie Ingram"s experience during 3 years at Bisley, France and Australia with an INCH prototype with 2 barrels in 6BR for shorts and .284 INCH (his development. Laurie changed barrels up to 2 times a day during major meetings....and probably more during his load developments days at his south France home range.

R.G.C

[R.G.C]

Looks like a single shot Tubb T2K to me. Nothing new really.

Apples and oranges..Compare descriptions. Each one its particularities....

R.G.C

R.G.G

me likey , me trying to get one as we speak

[ovenpaa]

In my opinion it is all but impossible to compare the Tubb 2K to the Model 75 other than they are both tubed chassis systems. If I was to compare the T2K to anything it would be the Model 66.

The T2K was designed for XC and is a lighter rifle, it has a McMillan 2 lug front locking action and is a repeater. It has not recoil damping, does not have the ability to swap barrels at the firing point without tools and it is built in the USA and accordingly is not the easiest thing to get into the UK.

The T2K has won numerous competitions.

The Model 75 is a three lug rear locking single shot receiver sitting in a dedicated tube chassis with lightweight one piece receiver tube and forend. It is designed for F/TR, F Open, TR and MR and has the option of recoil damping. The Model 75 offers the prone shooter the opportunity to completely adapt the rifle stock to the shooter, including Cheek piece indexing and offset plus the more usual LoP etc.

The Model 75 uses the C.G INCH action that has already won world championships and most importantly the Model 75 chassis is totally made in the UK with the exception of the Action.

If you want a lighter version that is made completely in the UK look at the Model 66.

Both the 75 and 66 offer features such as massive bolt diameters for rigidity, bellville spring stacks for significantly faster lock times plus numerous other features from a designer that already has actions such as the RPA 2000, RPA Quadlock and C.G Millenium under his belt. If you look at the WLRC at Brisbane last year, Robert designed 51 out of the 96 Actions used by the Palma competitors, this was between the six competing teams so over half the competitors were shooting a rifle with a CG Action.

Looking at the individual results 5 out of the top 10 were using CG Actions:

1st Richard JEENS (C.G Quadlock)

2nd André DU TOIT (C.G INCH) , also winning the Under 25 Worlds Champ.

4th Jane MESSER (C.G Quadlock)

5th Geoffrey GRENFELL (C.G Millenium)

7th Johannes DU TOIT (C.G INCH)

In fact it was 5 out of the top 7 if I am to be pedantic.

Personally I think the Model 66 and 75 are both going to be winners. Both are going to be UK built and both will be available off the shelf. I expect to see them doing very well in all disciplines within the next 12 months here in the UK and overseas and I already have build orders for the model 75 for both in the UK and overseas.

[John MH]

T2k's aren't that hard to get over here as there are quite a few seen on the firing points at Bisley. An all British built precision tube gun that is not a conversion or chassis system for a Remington clone will be a welcome addition to what is currently available. I would imagine that a repeater is not top of the priority list if the intended market is for 'Target' rifle in its various forms using single shot actions. To fill a wider market a repeater is probably where the money is going to be made for the non purist. Keep us posted.

[Dougan]

Thanks R.G.C

...So more options and flexibility on switching barrels on the single shot version....

I'm still curious about hearing anyone's 'preferences' for 2 different barrels, one for short and one for long range? - I can understand why being able to switch calibers is good for hunters, but am still trying to work out if it can be advantageous to a paper-puncher....?

Dougan,

I can only pass the late Laurie Ingram"s experience during 3 years at Bisley, France and Australia with an INCH prototype with 2 barrels in 6BR for shorts and .284 INCH (his development. Laurie changed barrels up to 2 times a day during major meetings....and probably more during his load developments days at his south France home range.

R.G.C

Interesting - Without a full understanding of all this, as calibers can be confusing (the mm of names don't always accurately match the inches!?)...I had in mind, in real 'mm', something between 6.0 and 6.5 for short, and something 7.0+ for long....

[ovenpaa]

Dougan, the choice is going to be down to many factors including budget, current competition results and market trends. A good example id the humble .308 in F/TR, people are shooting Berger 155's, 155.5's and 185's, VLD's Hybrids and targets. Sierra 2156's and a range of heavy lumps and that is just in one class. I will lay money on some people looking very carefully at what ENS shot this year

The F Open guys seem to favour anything in 7mm/.284 right now, ideally hit very hard whereas a few years ago the 6,5-284 was in favour. The same goes for choice of barrel make/twist and length, and even profile and people will always try and replicate championship winning builds.

Personally I would say if you really do want to run two separate rifles or at least barrels then look at a 6mm/6.5mm for shorter stuff and 7mm/.284 for the longer stuff unless you are prepared to think outside the box which can be very costly. Christel has a very different view on such things.

Nice to know we are all different tongueout

[Dougan]

Dougan, the choice is going to be down to many factors including budget, current competition results and market trends. A good example id the humble .308 in F/TR, people are shooting Berger 155's, 155.5's and 185's, VLD's Hybrids and targets. Sierra 2156's and a range of heavy lumps and that is just in one class. I will lay money on some people looking very carefully at what ENS shot this year

The F Open guys seem to favour anything in 7mm/.284 right now, ideally hit very hard whereas a few years ago the 6,5-284 was in favour. The same goes for choice of barrel make/twist and length, and even profile and people will always try and replicate championship winning builds.

Personally I would say if you really do want to run two separate rifles or at least barrels then look at a 6mm/6.5mm for shorter stuff and 7mm/.284 for the longer stuff unless you are prepared to think outside the box which can be very costly. Christel has a very different view on such things.

Nice to know we are all different tongueout

Sorry to go off topic a little, but - I think I remember that Christel prefers even smaller calibers...those 'obelisk' bullets you have...could those, in a .22 calibler, be fired at very high rotation without breaking up?...or is that too 'out of the box'...?

[Meaty]

Dave,
Do they need someone in the UK to help evaluate its performance

[R.G.C]

Dave,
Do they need someone in the UK to help evaluate its performance

Meaty,

Go and get to the queue..LOL

R.G.C