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Scatterguns ?
Posted: Sat Oct 20, 2012 4:25 pm
by meles meles
Well oomans, after a lecture or two at the HBSA we're thinking of buying a scattergun or two. What do you recommend - should we apply for a separate shotgun stiffycate or a coterminus stiffycate ? Our FAC has about 2 years to run...
Re: Scatterguns ?
Posted: Sat Oct 20, 2012 8:51 pm
by saddler
Benefits to either approach:
S1 toys tend to be cheaper to purchase, plus are more commonly encountered....
PLUS having non-restricted magazines they hold more "bangs" to use Badger speak!
S2 toys are easier as far as paperwork goes, but cost more and hold less bangs.
You could always find S.2 toys & convert to S.1 once paperwork is squared away...
Chris Smith has a nice new Norinco made Win '97 repro for very reasonable money
The '97 is a nice design - also look at Win. model 12's, Ithaca 37's, Remington 11's, Browning Auto 5's and any pre-war designs; esp. John Moses Browning designs...
Happy to provide advice on making brass-tinned "bangs", loading devices/options, contemporary canvas "bang" carrying bags/pouches, etc.
Have quite a specific library on the subject too, if you need any info.
Re: Scatterguns ?
Posted: Sat Oct 20, 2012 10:02 pm
by Sim G
saddler wrote:Chris Smith has a nice new Norinco made Win '97 repro for very reasonable money.
How much reasonable?
Re: Scatterguns ?
Posted: Sat Oct 20, 2012 10:04 pm
by saddler
Sim G wrote:saddler wrote:Chris Smith has a nice new Norinco made Win '97 repro for very reasonable money.
How much reasonable?
Will text you, fluffy!
Re: Scatterguns ?
Posted: Sat Oct 20, 2012 10:08 pm
by Sim G
Cheers, sweet cheeks!
Re: Scatterguns ?
Posted: Sun Oct 21, 2012 4:22 pm
by meles meles
Yes oomans, but what are the relative merits of a separate SC and a coterminus SC ?
Re: Scatterguns ?
Posted: Sun Oct 21, 2012 4:58 pm
by M99
You save money!
But if you have 2 years to run on your at the moment, then separate ones are fine.
Mike
Re: Scatterguns ?
Posted: Sun Oct 21, 2012 5:23 pm
by Polchraine
meles meles wrote:Well oomans, after a lecture or two at the HBSA we're thinking of buying a scattergun or two. What do you recommend - should we apply for a separate shotgun stiffycate or a coterminus stiffycate ? Our FAC has about 2 years to run...
The cost of a coterminus is the SGC or FAC fee plus £10. So, your FAC renewal will be £40 plus £10 (you might have an awkward FEO who insists it the an SGC grant £50 plus £10).
So, with two years to run on your existing you effectively loose £20, however by continuing with coterminus you will save £30 ((40+40) - (40+10)) every five years along with the time to fill out forms speak to referees and wait in for a visit.
Advantages:
Cheaper in the medium and long term.
Only one visit
One less referee to ask
Disadvantages:
None I can think of
Re: Scatterguns ?
Posted: Mon Oct 22, 2012 11:43 am
by Blackstuff
Polchraine wrote:
Advantages:
Cheaper in the medium and long term.
Only one visit
One less referee to ask
Disadvantages:
None I can think of
Disadvantages;
If your FLD is running behind on processing renewals you're not going shooting at all!
I purposely have my certificates expiring on different dates to avoid the above as my FAC expires during the bulge of certificates caused when they were switched from 3 year to 5 year renewals. I'd rather pay an extra £40 once every 5 years than being stopped from going shooting even if its just for a day!
Re: Scatterguns ?
Posted: Mon Oct 22, 2012 11:53 am
by ovenpaa
Wise words Mark. The Viking has a coterminus certificate which is in for renewal at present, she put it in very early and I am prepared to put money on it being back either same week as the old one expires or late...